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00:00:46 – CHUCK KEENEY: RALPH WALDO EMERSON WROTE,
00:00:48 – “COAL IS CIVILIZATION AND POWER.”
00:00:54 – CARL POPE: COAL INITIATED THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION.
00:00:58 – COAL FIRED STEAM ENGINES; COAL DROVE TRAINS;
00:01:02 – COAL DROVE FACTORIES.
00:01:04 – HOMES WERE HEATED WITH COAL.
00:01:06 – IT WAS INDISPENSABLE.
00:01:09 – JUSTIN MARCUM: FROM EARLY 1900S TO THE GREAT DEPRESSION
00:01:12 – THROUGH THE NEW DEAL TO WORLD WAR II, COAL POWERED AMERICA.
00:01:17 – CARL POPE: IN THE 20TH CENTURY,
00:01:19 – COAL BECAME ONE OF THE DOMINANT WAYS THAT
00:01:20 – THE UNITED STATES GENERATED ELECTRICITY.
00:01:23 – CHUCK KEENEY: MANY AMERICANS DON'T REALIZE THAT EVERY TIME
00:01:25 – THEY TURN ON THEIR LIGHT SWITCH,
00:01:27 – THEY ARE CONSUMERS OF COAL.
00:01:29 – CARL POPE: WE ARE STILL QUITE DEPENDENT ON COAL.
00:01:31 – BUT, COAL WAS A 19TH CENTURY SOURCE OF FUEL.
00:01:33 – AND WE'RE IN THE 21ST CENTURY.
00:01:37 – PRESIDENT OBAMA: I'M DIRECTING THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION
00:01:39 – AGENCY TO PUT AN END TO THE LIMITLESS DUMPING OF CARBON
00:01:42 – POLLUTION FROM OUR POWER PLANTS.
00:01:44 – ANNE HEDGES: COAL IS THE BIGGEST SOURCE OF CARBON
00:01:46 – POLLUTION IN OUR ATMOSPHERE TODAY.
00:01:49 – CARL POPE: BURNING COAL KILLS.
00:01:50 – YOU GET ASTHMA, YOU GET LUNG DISEASE, YOU GET CANCER.
00:01:53 – MARY ANNE HITT: HIGHER RATES OF BIRTH DEFECTS.
00:01:55 – GEORGE THURSTON: HEART DISEASE,
00:01:56 – HEART ATTACKS AND DEATH.
00:01:57 – MARY ANNE HITT: IT'S THE BIGGEST SOURCE OF TOXIC
00:01:59 – WATER POLLUTION.
00:02:00 – IT'S THE BIGGEST CONTRIBUTOR TO CLIMATE CHANGE.
00:02:02 – CHARLIE ROSE: THE UNITED NATIONS SAYS CLIMATE CHANGE IS
00:02:04 – REAL AND MAN-MADE.
00:02:06 – MARY ANNE HITT: AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO STOP THIS DAMAGE.
00:02:09 – BRUCE NILLES: SO, OUR WORK STARTING IN 2002 WAS TO STOP
00:02:11 – 200 COAL PLANTS GETTING BUILT.
00:02:13 – GEORGE THURSTON: TO STOP BURNING COAL.
00:02:14 – MARY ANNE HITT: TO STOP MOUNTAINTOP REMOVAL.
00:02:16 – RICHARD MARTIN: SHUTDOWN COAL MINES.
00:02:17 – BRUCE NILLES: CLEAN UP THEIR TOXIC WASTE.
00:02:19 – PRESIDENT OBAMA: AND SPEED UP OUR TRANSITION TO A CLEANER,
00:02:20 – SAFER FUTURE.
00:02:22 – ANCHOR: THE US COAL INDUSTRY IS IN A FIGHT FOR ITS LIFE.
00:02:25 – ANCHOR 2: AS THE WOOD RIVER POWER STATION SHUTS DOWN.
00:02:28 – REPORTER: B.C. COBB POWER PLANT WILL BE SHUTTING DOWN.
00:02:29 – REPORTER 2: THE U.S. COAL INDUSTRY IS PREPARING
00:02:31 – FOR MORE LAYOFFS.
00:02:33 – TROY SMITH: THE TOWN IS COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN.
00:02:35 – DANNY FERGUSON: IT'S JUST EMPTY BUILDING AFTER EMPTY
00:02:37 – BUILDING AFTER EMPTY BUILDING.
00:02:38 – REGINA LILLY: WE KNEW IT WAS COMIN'.
00:02:40 – WE JUST DIDN'T KNOW HOW HARD IT WAS GOING TO BE.
00:02:41 – WE'RE LOSING EVERYTHING.
00:02:44 – JUSTIN MARCUM: OBAMA AND THE EPA PULLED THE RUG OUT
00:02:46 – FROM UNDERNEATH US.
00:02:47 – YOU SEE WHY WE'RE SO FRUSTRATED.
00:02:49 – REPORTER: THE COAL MINER'S LIVELIHOODS ARE IN JEOPARDY.
00:02:50 – THEY BELIEVE THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IS HASTENING
00:02:52 – THEIR DEMISE.
00:02:54 – CECIL ROBERTS: NO BUREAUCRAT HAS A RIGHT TO DO THIS!
00:02:59 – LORI SHAW: WE HOPE TO MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD THAT WE
00:03:00 – WANT COAL ENERGY.
00:03:02 – WE LIKE COAL ENERGY.
00:03:03 – RALLY SPEAKER: BETTER COAL, BETTER MARKETS, BETTER JOBS!
00:03:06 – PRESIDENT TRUMP: MY OPPONENT WANTS TO PUT THE GREAT MINERS
00:03:09 – OUT OF WORK AND OUT OF BUSINESS.
00:03:11 – THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN WITH DONALD J. TRUMP AS PRESIDENT.
00:03:17 – OUR MINERS ARE GOING BACK TO WORK, AGAIN!
00:03:20 – VP PENCE: WE'RE GOING TO END THE WAR ON COAL THE DAY WE
00:03:23 – ENTER THE WHITE HOUSE.
00:04:00 – REGINA LILLY: JANUARY THE 9TH WAS THE LAST TIME
00:04:02 – HE WAS LAID OFF.
00:04:04 – I'D HAD MY SON AND, I HAD A VERY HARD TIME WITH IT.
00:04:07 – AND I ALMOST DIED.
00:04:10 – AND THEN WHEN HE WENT BACK, THEY SAID,
00:04:11 – “SORRY, AND YOU'RE LAID OFF, DID YOU NOT KNOW?”
00:04:14 – AND HE WAS LIKE, “NO, NO ONE TOLD ME.”
00:04:16 – AND THEY HAD LAID OFF 45 THAT DAY.
00:04:18 – AND THEN MAYBE A WEEK LATER, THEY SHUT THE MINE DOWN AND
00:04:20 – HAD COMPLETELY LAID OFF EVERYBODY.
00:04:23 – CECIL LILLY: IT GETS REALLY DEPRESSING WHENEVER YOU,
00:04:26 – YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE KIDS AND YOU GO TO WORK ONE DAY.
00:04:28 – AND THEY SAY, “WELL, YOU DON'T WORK HERE NO MORE.”
00:04:31 – THEN, YOU GOT TO GO HOME AND FACE YOUR FAMILY AND SAY,
00:04:37 – YOU DON'T HAVE A JOB NO MORE.
00:04:43 – CHUCK KEENEY: WEST VIRGINIA HAS NEVER BEEN
00:04:44 – A PROSPEROUS PLACE.
00:04:46 – IT'S A VERY UNCERTAIN, KIND OF,
00:04:47 – LIFE LIVING IN COAL COUNTRY.
00:04:50 – MINERS HAVE ALWAYS HAD TO PREPARE FOR THE INEVITABLE
00:04:53 – BOOMS AND BUSTS THAT HAPPEN BECAUSE COAL IS INCREDIBLY
00:04:56 – MARKET-DRIVEN.
00:04:59 – CARL POPE: IF, YOU LOOK AT THE APPALACHIAN EXPERIENCE,
00:05:02 – COAL USED TO EMPLOY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
00:05:04 – AND THERE USED TO BE THOUSANDS OF COAL MINES.
00:05:06 – BUT, TODAY, YOU HAVE ABOUT 40,000 WORKERS LEFT.
00:05:09 – THEIR AVERAGE AGE IS OVER FIFTY.
00:05:12 – AND THE BIGGEST THING THAT'S CHANGED IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS
00:05:16 – IS COAL COSTS MORE THAN ITS COMPETITORS.
00:05:20 – RICHARD MARTIN: THE MAIN REASON OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS
00:05:22 – THAT COAL HAS BEEN IN DECLINE IS CHEAP NATURAL GAS.
00:05:25 – IT'S HYDRAULIC FRACTURING, OR FRACKING.
00:05:27 – JEREMY RICHARDSON: A FEW YEARS AGO,
00:05:29 – ABOUT HALF OF OUR ELECTRICITY CAME FROM COAL.
00:05:32 – BUT, TODAY THAT NUMBER'S LESS THAN A THIRD.
00:05:35 – THE ELECTRICITY GRID IS SOMETHING THAT THAT HAS A LOT
00:05:38 – OF EQUIPMENT AND IT'S JUST, IT DOESN'T CHANGE FAST.
00:05:41 – BUT, IN FACT, THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S HAPPENED OVER
00:05:43 – THE LAST FEW YEARS.
00:05:44 – WE'VE JUST SEEN THIS DRAMATIC SHIFT.
00:05:46 – ETHAN ZINDLER: IF THERE IS A WAR THAT'S BEING FOUGHT ON COAL,
00:05:49 – THOSE WHO ARE WAGING IT MOST VIOLENTLY ARE THOSE IN
00:05:51 – THE NATURAL GAS INDUSTRY.
00:05:53 – WE HAVE AN UNBELIEVABLE BOUNTY OF NATURAL GAS.
00:05:56 – AND WE HAVE RIGS THAT ARE OUT THERE OPERATING AT HIGHER AND
00:05:59 – HIGHER EFFICIENCIES.
00:06:00 – AND THAT'S KEEPING NATURAL GAS PRICES VERY LOW.
00:06:03 – RICHARD MARTIN: BECAUSE OF NATURAL GAS,
00:06:04 – THE DECLINE OF COAL CONSUMPTION AND COAL BURNING
00:06:08 – IS NOT ONLY HAPPENING RAPIDLY.
00:06:10 – BUT, THE PACE IS ACCELERATING, EVEN, AS WE SPEAK.
00:06:13 – ANCHOR: ONE OF THE NATION'S LARGEST PRIVATE COAL PRODUCERS
00:06:15 – MAY SOON TAKE ON ONE OF THE LARGEST LAYOFFS IN HISTORY.
00:06:19 – ANCHOR 2: PEABODY ENERGY, THE NATION'S LARGEST COAL COMPANY
00:06:21 – FILED FOR BANKRUPTCY PROTECTION WEDNESDAY.
00:06:24 – REPORTER: ALPHA NATURAL RESOURCES ANNOUNCED WEDNESDAY
00:06:27 – THEY SENT A WARN NOTICE TO MORE THAN 100 COAL MINERS IN
00:06:30 – LETCHER AND HARLAN COUNTY.
00:06:33 – REGINA LILLY: THE COAL COMPANIES HAVE BASICALLY,
00:06:35 – FAILED EVERYBODY; THEIR EMPLOYEES; THE COMMUNITIES.
00:06:39 – THEY'VE, THEY'VE FAILED EVERYBODY.
00:06:43 – IT'S JUST HEARTBREAKING, NOW, THAT, YOU KNOW,
00:06:44 – THEY CLOSED DOWN AND THEY TAKE THEIR WORKERS' PENSIONS.
00:06:47 – THEY TAKE THEIR RETIREMENTS; THEIR SAVINGS;
00:06:49 – ANYTHING THEY HAD IN THE COMPANY.
00:06:50 – THEY FILE BANKRUPTCY; THEY KEEP IT.
00:06:52 – AND THEY SEND THEIR WORKERS ON THEIR WAY.
00:06:54 – AS LONG AS THEY GOT THEIR MONEY IN THEIR POCKET,
00:06:55 – THEY DON'T CARE.
00:06:58 – MARY ANNE HITT: THAT'S A LIFE AND DEATH STRUGGLE FOR A LOT
00:07:00 – OF THESE FOLKS IN THESE COMMUNITIES BECAUSE WHEN THESE
00:07:03 – BIG COAL COMPANIES GO BANKRUPT.
00:07:05 – AND YOU KNOW, IN APPALACHIA, WE HAVE SEEN THIS MOVIE
00:07:07 – BEFORE, UNFORTUNATELY.
00:07:09 – WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS THEY WANT TO SHED THEIR
00:07:12 – OBLIGATIONS TO WORKERS.
00:07:13 – SPECIFICALLY, PENSIONS AND HEALTHCARE COMMITMENTS.
00:07:16 – AND SO THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING AGAIN.
00:07:18 – BUT, IT'S HAPPENING ON A UNPRECEDENTED SCALE.
00:07:21 – DANNY WHITT: WHEN THEY FILED BANKRUPTCY PRETTY MUCH FROM
00:07:23 – WHAT I SAW IS THESE JUDGES ARE REAL LENIENT WITH 'EM.
00:07:27 – AND OR PRO-BANKRUPTCY WITH THE COMPANY FROM WHAT I'VE SAW.
00:07:29 – THEY'LL LET 'EM FILE BANKRUPTCY.
00:07:32 – AND THEN THEY'LL SAY WELL, “YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY INTO
00:07:34 – THESE MINERS' HEALTHCARE FUNDS.
00:07:36 – YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY INTO THEIR PENSION FUNDS.
00:07:38 – WE JUST RELIEVE YOU OF ALL OBLIGATIONS.”
00:07:40 – WELL, WHEN THEY DO THAT, WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE
00:07:42 – DESTROYING OUR HEALTHCARE AND OUR PENSION SYSTEM.
00:07:45 – CHARLES “HAWKEYE” DIXON: THIS COUNTRY MADE A PROMISE IN 1947
00:07:50 – THAT THEY WOULD GUARANTEE HEALTHCARE AND PENSION
00:07:51 – BENEFITS TO COAL MINERS IF THEY WOULD WORK IN
00:07:55 – THESE HERE COAL MINES.
00:07:57 – NOW, WE FULFILLED OUR PROMISE.
00:07:59 – WE'VE DONE IT AND WELL, H*** A LOT OF US DIED DOING IT.
00:08:03 – COAL MINERS GET KILLED A LOT, AND,
00:08:06 – I'VE HEARD COAL OPERATORS SAY THIS,
00:08:07 – “THAT'S PART OF DOING BUSINESS.”
00:08:10 – MY GRANDPA GOT KILLED JUST NOT MORE THAN A MILE
00:08:12 – ACROSS THE RIVER, THERE.
00:08:13 – WE DESERVE BETTER THAN THAT.
00:08:15 – RICHARD MARTIN: THE HISTORY OF COAL MINING COMPANIES IN,
00:08:19 – TERMS OF PROTECTING THE SAFETY OF THEIR WORKERS IS SHODDY,
00:08:22 – OR, EVEN SHAMEFUL.
00:08:24 – CHUCK KEENEY: THE MONONGAH BLAST IN 1907.
00:08:27 – KILLED SEVERAL HUNDRED MINERS.
00:08:31 – THE UPPER BIG BRANCH, THE MOST RECENT OF THE BIG MINING
00:08:33 – DISASTERS KILLED 29 MEN IN 2010.
00:08:37 – BRIAN WILLIAMS: GOOD EVENING.
00:08:38 – IT WAS CATASTROPHIC EXPLOSION DEEP UNDERGROUND
00:08:41 – AND THE LOSS OF LIFE IS STAGGERING.
00:08:44 – CBS REPORTER: THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY MASSEY ENERGY COMPANY.
00:08:46 – AND HAS A HISTORY OF RELEASING COMBUSTIBLE METHANE GAS.
00:08:49 – NBC REPORTER: THIS MINE WAS STILL OPERATING AFTER REPEATED
00:08:51 – AND SERIOUS SAFETY VIOLATIONS.
00:08:54 – CBS REPORTER: INVESTIGATORS CONCLUDED QUOTE,
00:08:56 – “MASSEY PROMOTED AND ENFORCED A WORKPLACE CULTURE
00:08:58 – THAT VALUED PRODUCTION OVER SAFETY.”
00:09:02 – CHARLES “HAWKEYE” DIXON: MASSEY'S ATTITUDE AND THEIR
00:09:04 – CEO'S ATTITUDE WAS THAT, LISTEN,
00:09:06 – WE COME IN TO THE COALFIELD COMMUNITIES;
00:09:08 – WE PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH JOBS; THAT PROVIDES A GOOD TAX BASE
00:09:11 – FOR YOUR OWN SCHOOLS.
00:09:14 – IF, SOME OF YOU HAPPEN TO GET DISABLED, OR KILLED,
00:09:22 – BASICALLY, SUCK IT UP.
00:09:23 – THAT'S PART OF DOING BUSINESS!
00:09:25 – THERE'S NOBODY.
00:09:26 – I'M NOT.
00:09:27 – AT LEAST, NOBODY THAT I TALK TO THAT REALLY HAS GOT
00:09:30 – A WHOLE LOT FOR COAL COMPANIES BECAUSE THEY,
00:09:32 – BEEN PRETTY, WELL, HEARTLESS TO THE PEOPLE!
00:09:37 – CHUCK KEENEY: IT'S ALWAYS BEEN AN UPHILL BATTLE
00:09:39 – FOR THE WORKER.
00:09:41 – THE INDUSTRY HAS NEVER VALUED WORKERS.
00:09:43 – THE EARLY COAL OPERATORS SAID: THE MULE WAS MORE IMPORTANT
00:09:46 – THAN THE MAN BECAUSE MULES WERE MORE
00:09:48 – EXPENSIVE THAN WORKERS AND WORKERS WERE REPLACEABLE.
00:09:52 – SO MINE MECHANIZATION IS THE FIRST THING THAT LED TO A HUGE
00:09:56 – COLLAPSE IN COAL MINING JOBS.
00:09:59 – RIGHT AFTER WORLD WAR II, YOU HAVE
00:10:00 – 100,000 COAL MINERS WORKING IN WEST VIRGINIA.
00:10:04 – BY 1985, THAT NUMBER HAS GONE DOWN TO 30,000;
00:10:08 – THAT NUMBER DROPPED OVER HALF BECAUSE OF MECHANIZATION OF
00:10:10 – THE COAL MINES.
00:10:12 – THEY WANT MACHINES TO DO MOST OF THE WORK.
00:10:16 – THE MORE MACHINES THEY CAN USE AND LESS PEOPLE THEY CAN USE;
00:10:19 – THE LESS LIABILITY THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE;
00:10:21 – THE LESS WORK FORCE PROBLEMS THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE.
00:10:24 – JEREMY RICHARDSON: SO, AS MINES IN APPALACHIA BECAME
00:10:26 – MORE MECHANIZED.
00:10:28 – AND THERE ARE MACHINES TO HELP EXTRACT THE COAL, YOU,
00:10:29 – WHAT YOU SAW WAS A REALLY STEADY AND DRAMATIC INCREASE
00:10:32 – IN PRODUCTION.
00:10:34 – AND IT CORRESPONDED TO A REALLY SIGNIFICANT DECLINE IN
00:10:36 – EMPLOYMENT OVER THAT SAME TIME.
00:10:40 – CARL POPE: WORKERS IN ANY INDUSTRY WANT TO HAVE JOBS.
00:10:43 – THEY NEED JOBS.
00:10:44 – THEY WANT TO FEED THEIR FAMILIES.
00:10:46 – AND ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE POLITICS OF COAL AND ABOUT
00:10:49 – COAL CORRUPTING IS THAT THE COAL COMPANIES HAVE MADE SURE
00:10:52 – THAT STATES LIKE WEST VIRGINIA NEVER DEVELOPED
00:10:54 – AN ALTERNATIVE ECONOMIC BASE.
00:10:56 – THE COAL INDUSTRY HAS MADE SURE THAT IT WAS THE ONLY
00:10:58 – EMPLOYER IN TOWN.
00:11:00 – CHUCK KEENEY: THEY CAN BLOCK LEGISLATION;
00:11:02 – THEY CAN BLOCK ECONOMIC INITIATIVES.
00:11:04 – ANY KIND OF INDUSTRY THAT CAN COMPETE WITH THEM,
00:11:07 – THEY WANT TO KEEP IT OUT.
00:11:10 – REGINA LILLY: I WANT MY POLITICIANS,
00:11:12 – ALL OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, FROM COUNTY, CITY, STATE UP,
00:11:16 – YOU KNOW, IF THEY DIDN'T WANT COAL.
00:11:18 – AND YOU KNOW THEY DIDN'T WANT THIS PROBLEM,
00:11:20 – THEN THEY SHOULD HAVE GAVE US ALTERNATIVES.
00:11:23 – THEY SHOULD HAVE PROVIDED US WITH ALTERNATIVE JOBS.
00:11:25 – BUT, THEY DON'T PROVIDE ANYTHING FOR
00:11:27 – ANYBODY AROUND HERE.
00:11:30 – YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ALONE IN THIS BOAT.
00:11:32 – THERE'S SO MANY MORE PEOPLE.
00:11:35 – [SIGHS].
00:11:36 – I'M, I'M HURT OVER IT BECAUSE I SEE PEOPLE SUFFERING.
00:11:40 – AND I KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND I KNOW HOW THEY'RE,
00:11:42 – WHAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH.
00:11:44 – YOU KNOW, BUT, OTHER PEOPLE ARE ANGRY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
00:11:46 – I MEAN, THEY ARE LOSING EVERYTHING.
00:11:48 – CBN REPORTER: THE U.S. COAL INDUSTRY IS IN A FIGHT FOR
00:11:51 – ITS VERY SURVIVAL.
00:11:52 – OAN REPORTER: PRO-COAL VOTERS BELIEVE THERE IS STILL A
00:11:54 – BATTLE TO BE FOUGHT IN THE WAR ON COAL.
00:11:56 – ANCHOR: THE US COAL INDUSTRY IS PREPARING FOR MORE LAYOFFS
00:11:58 – THIS FALL.
00:12:00 – SOME HAVE ACCUSED PRESIDENT OBAMA OF A WAR ON COAL.
00:12:02 – JEFF KESSLER: WE'VE BEEN RELIANT ON COAL AS THE MOST
00:12:04 – DOMINANT INDUSTRY IN THE HISTORY OF OUR STATE.
00:12:07 – AS WE MOVED AWAY FROM THAT THERE, THERE'S BEEN A,
00:12:10 – A HUGE VOID THAT'S BEEN CREATED.
00:12:13 – SO, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF BLAME CASTING.
00:12:15 – PRESIDENT TRUMP: AND WHAT THE EPA HAS DONE TO OUR ENERGY AND
00:12:18 – DONE TO OUR COAL INDUSTRY IS RIDICULOUS.
00:12:20 – JEFF KESSLER: AND POLITICIANS IN PARTICULAR,
00:12:22 – ARE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO, TO BLAME IT ON.
00:12:25 – MITCH MCCONNELL: WE'RE GOING TO PUSH BACK AGAINST THESE
00:12:26 – PEOPLE IN EVERY SINGLE WAY WE CAN.
00:12:29 – WE'RE GOING TO STOP THIS WAR ON COAL!
00:12:33 – [CHEERS].
00:12:35 – JUSTIN MARCUM: OVER REGULATION FROM OBAMA AND THE EPA HAS
00:12:37 – KILLED THE INDUSTRY.
00:12:39 – THE ONLY PEOPLE FIGHTING FOR THE COAL INDUSTRY IN SOUTHERN
00:12:41 – WEST VIRGINIA ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE COAL INDUSTRY.
00:12:44 – STEVE STEWART: MY CO-WORKERS AND MYSELF FEEL LIKE WE'RE
00:12:45 – UNDER ATTACK BY THIS GOVERNMENT,
00:12:47 – WITH ALL THE REGULATIONS THEY'VE IMPOSED ON US.
00:12:49 – REPORTER: PEOPLE JUST DON'T GET IT YOU DON'T THINK?
00:12:50 – STEVE STEWART: NO, NOT AT ALL.
00:12:52 – RICHARD MARTIN: THE WORKERS WHO ONCE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ON
00:12:54 – THE PICKET LINES FIGHTING AGAINST MANAGEMENT NOW FOUND
00:12:57 – THEIR INTEREST ALLIED WITH THE COAL COMPANIES THEY WORK FOR.
00:13:01 – PROESTORS: DON'T TAKE OUR JOBS AWAY!
00:13:04 – CONGRESSMAN MCKINLEY: THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE IN WASHINGTON
00:13:06 – THAT DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S A WAR ON COAL.
00:13:08 – LET ME SHOW OF HANDS, HOW MANY OF YOU BELIEVE THERE'S
00:13:10 – A WAR ON COAL?
00:13:12 – [CHEERING].
00:13:13 – YEAH!
00:13:15 – JEFF KESSLER: YOU KNOW, IF, I WALK INTO A ROOM AND I ASK
00:13:17 – FOLKS WHAT'S BEEN THE MOST DOMINANT INDUSTRY IN THE
00:13:18 – HISTORY OF THE STATE?
00:13:20 – I MEAN, UNIVERSALLY, THEY'LL YELL, COAL!
00:13:21 – YOU KNOW, SO, IS THERE WAR ON COAL?
00:13:22 – AND THEY'LL YELL, H***, YEAH!
00:13:24 – AND THEN I ASK THEM, WELL, ASSUMING THAT'S TRUE, I SAID,
00:13:26 – LET ME ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION.
00:13:29 – DURING COAL'S HEYDAY, WAS WEST VIRGINIA'S ECONOMY IN THE TOP
00:13:33 – FIVE, MIDDLE FIVE, OR BOTTOM FIVE IN THE NATIONAL,
00:13:35 – YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC RANKING?
00:13:39 – THEY'LL BE SCRATCHING THEIR HEADS AND SAY, AH!
00:13:40 – PROBABLY IN THE BOTTOM FIVE.
00:13:41 – AND SO, WE WIN THE WAR ON COAL.
00:13:43 – ARE YOU GOING TO BE IN THE TOP FIVE, MIDDLE FIVE,
00:13:45 – OR BOTTOM FIVE?
00:13:46 – AND IF THE ANSWER'S STILL THE BOTTOM FIVE, YOU KNOW,
00:13:50 – WHY ARE WE WASTING SO MUCH TIME AND ENERGY TRYING TO WIN
00:13:53 – A WAR THAT EVEN, IF, WE WIN WE'RE DEAD LAST.
00:13:57 – MARY ANNE HITT: IT IS VERY CONVENIENT FOR POLITICAL
00:13:59 – LEADERS TO POINT THEIR FINGERS AT THE EPA AND SAY,
00:14:02 – “JUST AS SOON AS WE GET RID OF THESE PESKY HEALTH AND SAFETY
00:14:04 – STANDARDS EVERYTHING WILL GO BACK TO THE WAY
00:14:07 – IT WAS BEFORE.”
00:14:08 – BUT, THERE ARE THREE THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT THE STATE
00:14:11 – OF COAL IN THIS COUNTRY.
00:14:14 – ONE, THE COAL INDUSTRY IS NEVER COMING BACK TO THEIR
00:14:17 – FORMER GLORY.
00:14:19 – DESPITE, ALL OF THEIR PROMISES THAT THEY WILL.
00:14:22 – SECOND WE ARE STILL BURNING A LOT OF COAL IN THIS COUNTRY.
00:14:26 – AND THIRD, COAL IS THE MOST POLLUTING FORM OF
00:14:30 – ENERGY ON THE PLANET.
00:14:32 – IT'S THE BIGGEST CONTRIBUTOR TO CLIMATE CHANGE.
00:14:34 – LESTER HOLT: 2014 WILL GO DOWN AS THE WARMEST YEAR
00:14:37 – AROUND THE GLOBE.
00:14:38 – KJW REPORTER: EARTH SET MONTHLY HEAT RECORDS FOR 16
00:14:40 – STRAIGHT MONTHS.
00:14:41 – KYTU REPORTER: THE EARTH'S TEMPERATURE HIT A
00:14:44 – NEW HIGH IN 2016.
00:14:45 – CNN REPORTER: 97% OF SCIENTISTS AGREE THAT CLIMATE
00:14:47 – CHANGE IS HAPPENING NOW.
00:14:49 – THAT IT'S DAMAGING THE PLANET.
00:14:51 – AND THAT IT IS MAN-MADE.
00:14:52 – CHRISTIANA FIGUERES: YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE NEGATIVE
00:14:54 – IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE.
00:14:57 – THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY HAS ALREADY SAID THAT IF WE EXCEED
00:15:00 – A GLOBAL TEMPERATURE RISE BEYOND TWO DEGREES.
00:15:03 – THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO INSURE THE WORLD.
00:15:07 – THAT IS NOT ONE INSURANCE COMPANY,
00:15:08 – THAT IS THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY.
00:15:11 – MICHAEL OPPENHEIMER: IF THE WORLD DOES NOTHING TO CONTROL
00:15:13 – THE EMISSIONS OF THE GREENHOUSE GASES.
00:15:14 – THEN THE WARMING BY THE END OF THIS CENTURY COULD BE
00:15:17 – AS HIGH AS FIVE OR SIX DEGREES CELSIUS.
00:15:20 – IT WOULD BE WARMER THAN IT'S BEEN SINCE THE DINOSAURS WERE
00:15:23 – DOMINANT MORE THAN 65 MILLION YEARS AGO.
00:15:26 – AND IT'S NOT CLEAR WHETHER THE HUMAN ENDEAVOR COULD
00:15:28 – SURVIVE IN SUCH A WORLD.
00:15:30 – IT'S NOW A QUESTION OF WHETHER WE CAN CONTROL
00:15:33 – THE DIRECTION IT GOES.
00:15:34 – SO, WE CAN GO INTO A CLIMATE-FRIENDLY WORLD.
00:15:36 – INSTEAD INTO A CLIMATE-INFERNO, BASICALLY.
00:15:41 – PRESIDENT OBAMA: IN MY FIRST INAUGURAL ADDRESS I COMMITTED
00:15:44 – THIS COUNTRY TO THE TIRELESS TASK OF COMBATING CLIMATE
00:15:47 – CHANGE AND PROTECTING THIS PLANET FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
00:15:51 – TWO WEEKS AGO IN PARIS, I SAID BEFORE THE WORLD
00:15:54 – THAT WE NEEDED A STRONG GLOBAL AGREEMENT TO
00:15:58 – ACCOMPLISH THIS GOAL.
00:15:59 – [SPEAKING IN FRENCH].
00:16:01 – [APPLAUSE].
00:16:04 – BRUCE NILLES: SO, THE PARIS AGREEMENT WAS A HUGE WATERSHED
00:16:06 – MOMENT FOR THE PLANET.
00:16:07 – ALMOST 200 COUNTRIES CAME TOGETHER AND AGREED TO CUT
00:16:10 – CARBON POLLUTION AND MAKE HUGE STRIDES TO TRY TO PREVENT
00:16:13 – RUNAWAY CLIMATE CHANGE.
00:16:15 – REPORTER: THE PARIS AGREEMENT SEEKS TO LIMIT GLOBAL WARMING
00:16:18 – TO 2 DEGREES CELSIUS ABOVE PRE-INDUSTRIAL LEVELS LARGELY
00:16:22 – THROUGH REDUCING EMISSIONS OF GREENHOUSE GASES.
00:16:25 – CHRISTIANA FIGUERES: THE ADOPTION OF THE PARIS
00:16:27 – AGREEMENT WAS THE CULMINATION OF 6 YEARS OF VERY,
00:16:31 – VERY INTENSIVE WORK WITH GOVERNMENTS;
00:16:34 – WITH PRIVATE SECTOR; WITH CIVIL SOCIETY,
00:16:36 – WITH THE FINANCE SECTOR.
00:16:38 – MARY ANNE HITT: THE LION'S SHARE OF WHAT THE US PUT ON
00:16:40 – THE TABLE IN PARIS, WHICH THEN BROUGHT ALL THE REST OF THE
00:16:43 – WORLD TOGETHER TO SIGN THE PARIS CLIMATE AGREEMENT WAS A
00:16:47 – COMMITMENT THAT WE WERE GOING TO SLASH CARBON POLLUTION FROM
00:16:50 – OUR BIGGEST SOURCE, COAL-FIRED POWER PLANTS.
00:16:54 – IN A TESTAMENT TO THE CONTINUING CLOUT AND POWER OF
00:16:58 – THE COAL INDUSTRY, THE NEW ADMINISTRATION HAS SAID,
00:17:00 – THEY OPPOSE THE PARIS CLIMATE AGREEMENT.
00:17:02 – REPORTER: DONALD TRUMP HAS SAID, HE WANTS TO REVIVE
00:17:04 – THE COAL INDUSTRY.
00:17:06 – AND HAS THREATENED TO PULL AMERICA OUT OF THE PARIS
00:17:08 – CLIMATE AGREEMENT.
00:17:10 – PRESIDENT TRUMP: WE WILL CANCEL THIS DEAL,
00:17:11 – SO THAT OUR COMPANIES CAN COMPETE.
00:17:14 – MICHAEL OPPENHEIMER: THERE'S NO AVOIDING
00:17:16 – THE CLIMATE PROBLEM.
00:17:17 – AND ANY RESPONSIBLE ADMINISTRATION SHOULD WANT TO
00:17:19 – PROTECT US FROM CLIMATE CHANGE.
00:17:21 – BRUCE NILLES: FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE,
00:17:22 – WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE THE PLANET FROM CLIMATE CHANGE.
00:17:25 – WE CAN'T DO THAT, UNLESS, WE PHASE OUT COAL.
00:17:38 – REPORTER: AND NOW, ACID RAIN IN THE NEWS.
00:17:42 – ACID RAIN LOOKS, FEELS AND SMELLS LIKE ANY OTHER RAIN.
00:17:46 – BUT, THE WATER IN ACID RAIN CARRIES POISONS,
00:17:48 – LIKE, SULFURIC ACID.
00:17:50 – THE BEST WAY TO REDUCE ACID RAIN IS TO FORCE FACTORIES TO
00:17:54 – CUT BACK THE SULFUR DIOXIDE THAT COMES OUT OF
00:17:56 – THEIR SMOKE STACKS.
00:17:58 – CARL POPE: BACK IN THE 1980S,
00:17:59 – CONGRESS SAID WE'RE GOING TO CLEAN UP
00:18:02 – SULFUR DIOXIDE POLLUTION,
00:18:03 – WHICH CAUSES ACID RAIN.
00:18:05 – SO, THE CLEAN AIR ACT OF 1990 AMENDMENTS WERE PASSED.
00:18:09 – PRESIDENT BUSH SR.: TODAY, I AM VERY PROUD ON BEHALF OF
00:18:12 – EVERYONE HERE TO SIGN THIS CLEAN AIR ACT OF 1990.
00:18:16 – THIS BILL WILL CUT EMISSIONS THAT CAUSE ACID RAIN IN HALF.
00:18:19 – AND PERMANENTLY CAP THEM AT THESE NEW LEVELS.
00:18:24 – [CLAPPING].
00:18:25 – CARL POPE: SO, THERE WERE TWO WAYS THE COAL INDUSTRY
00:18:27 – COULD HAVE GONE.
00:18:29 – FIRST, THEY COULD HAVE PUT EQUIPMENT ON THE POWER PLANTS
00:18:30 – AND CLEANED UP THE SULFUR WITH SCRUBBERS.
00:18:32 – AND IF, THEY HAD DONE THAT, WE WOULD HAVE CONTINUED TO MINE
00:18:35 – MOST OF OUR COAL IN APPALACHIA.
00:18:37 – AND THERE WOULD BE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF COAL MINING JOBS
00:18:39 – THAT DIDN'T GO AWAY.
00:18:41 – INSTEAD, WHAT THE COAL UTILITIES DID WAS TO BRING
00:18:45 – COAL IN FROM THE POWDER RIVER BASIN IN WYOMING AND MONTANA,
00:18:48 – WHICH HAD A LOWER CONTENT OF SULFUR.
00:18:50 – MIKE SCOTT: POWDER RIVER BASIN IS AN AREA IN
00:18:53 – MONTANA AND WYOMING.
00:18:54 – IT'S, GENERALLY, CONSIDERED NORTH TO
00:18:56 – THE YELLOWSTONE RIVER.
00:18:57 – AND THEN, THE BIG HORN AND POWDER RIVERS AND THAT GOES
00:18:59 – DOWN INTO WYOMING.
00:19:01 – IT'S AN AREA THAT'S VERY, VERY RICH IN FOSSIL FUEL RESOURCES.
00:19:05 – THERE'S COAL; THERE'S NATURAL GAS; THERE'S OIL.
00:19:07 – LOUISE CARTER-KING: AT ONE TIME, THEY SAID, IF,
00:19:09 – WE WERE OUR OWN COUNTRY, WE'D BE LIKE SAUDI ARABIA.
00:19:11 – YOU KNOW, WE'D HAVE AS MUCH ENERGY UNDERNEATH AS THEY DO.
00:19:14 – SHANNON ANDERSON: AND SO, AFTER THE CLEAN AIR ACT
00:19:16 – AMENDMENTS IN 1990.
00:19:18 – COAL IN APPALACHIA DECLINED.
00:19:21 – AND THERE WAS A NEW INTEREST IN THE POWDER RIVER BASIN,
00:19:24 – IRONICALLY, BECAUSE OF ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATION.
00:19:27 – CARL POPE: THE AREA PRODUCES 44% OF AMERICA'S COAL.
00:19:30 – IT HAS 18 ACTIVE COAL MINING OPERATIONS,
00:19:34 – INCLUDING THE BIGGEST COAL MINES IN THE COUNTRY.
00:19:36 – IT EMPLOYS 6,000 PEOPLE.
00:19:39 – AND IT IS THE DOMINANT ECONOMIC FACT IN THAT PART OF
00:19:44 – THE COUNTRY.
00:19:59 – RUSTY BATIE: SO, WE'RE COMING DOWN INTO THIS PIT.
00:20:01 – IT'S ABOUT 160 FEET DEEP RIGHT HERE.
00:20:04 – SO, THIS IS ABOUT AS DEEP AS YOU'LL SEE ONE
00:20:06 – OF OUR HIGH WALLS GET.
00:20:08 – AND WE'RE GOING TO DRIVE RIGHT OUT ON TO WHAT'S COAL RIGHT
00:20:10 – HERE ON THIS RAMP.
00:20:12 – WE'LL GO DOWN INTO THE PIT.
00:20:13 – YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY MINE IT OUT.
00:20:14 – AND WHERE THEY'RE WORKING ON IT.
00:20:18 – JOHN WILLIAMS: SO, WE'RE, KIND OF, A ONE HORSE TOWN.
00:20:20 – EVERYTHING THAT WE DO HERE IS BASED ON COAL.
00:20:22 – EVERYTHING.
00:20:23 – ALL THE JOBS.
00:20:25 – WE HAVE A POPULATION IN OUR, IN OUR CITY OF AROUND
00:20:27 – 2,300 RESIDENTS.
00:20:29 – AND WE HAVE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF DIVERSITY OVER THE
00:20:31 – YEARS WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE POWER PLANTS, THE,
00:20:35 – THE OPENING UP OF THE MINE.
00:20:37 – ONE TIME, OUR POPULATION IN OUR COMMUNITY WAS
00:20:39 – 8,700 PEOPLE.
00:20:42 – RUSTY BATIE: WE GOT THREE,
00:20:43 – WHAT ARE CALLED MARION 8050 DRAGLINES.
00:20:46 – IT WEIGHS SIX AND A HALF MILLION POUNDS.
00:20:49 – THAT BOOM IS 325 FEET LONG.
00:20:53 – SO, YOU LAY IT DOWN, IT'S LONGER THAN A FOOTBALL FIELD.
00:20:55 – DUANE ANKNEY: ANYTHING ABOUT COAL IS LABOR INTENSIVE.
00:21:00 – SOMEBODY'S TAKING A PAYCHECK HOME ON FRIDAY NIGHT,
00:21:03 – PUTTING SHOES ON THE BABY.
00:21:05 – IT DON'T MATTER, IF, YOU'RE BUILDING A DRAGLINE;
00:21:07 – WORKING ON ONE OF THESE HAUL TRUCKS; WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING,
00:21:10 – COAL IS LABOR INTENSIVE.
00:21:13 – MIKE SCOTT: IT'S A REALLY INTERESTING TOWN IN
00:21:14 – THE WAY IT'S BUILT.
00:21:16 – IT'S VERY MUCH A COMPANY TOWN.
00:21:17 – THE POWER PLANTS ARE THERE AND THEN THE TOWN IS BUILT
00:21:20 – AROUND THEM.
00:21:22 – AND THEN SURROUNDING THE TOWN IS THE COAL MINES.
00:21:24 – JIM ATCHISON: THE POWER PLANT HERE IS REALLY
00:21:26 – FOUR POWER PLANTS.
00:21:27 – AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S ALL IN ONE FOOTPRINT,
00:21:29 – ONE PERMIT, ONE COMPLEX.
00:21:32 – NUMBER 1 AND 2 WERE BUILT BACK IN THE MID-70S.
00:21:35 – UNITS 3 AND 4, WHICH ARE THE BIGGER ONES,
00:21:37 – WERE BUILT IN THE MID-80S.
00:21:38 – ANNE HEDGES: THE LARGEST OWNER OF COLSTRIP HAPPENS TO BE
00:21:40 – PUGET SOUND ENERGY.
00:21:42 – 1,000 MILES AWAY AND THE POWER ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY
00:21:46 – HEADS TO THE WEST.
00:21:50 – THE COLSTRIP PLANT IS SURROUNDED BY SOME OF THE
00:21:52 – MOST BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY IN THE STATE.
00:21:55 – AND LAST YEAR WAS RATED AS THE THIRD HIGHEST GREENHOUSE GAS
00:21:58 – EMITTER IN THE NATION.
00:22:03 – BRUCE NILLES: COAL WHEN YOU MINE IT HAS A LOT OF REALLY
00:22:05 – NASTY CHEMICALS IN IT.
00:22:06 – AND WHEN THEY BURN IT, MUCH OF THAT GOES OUT OF THE SMOKE
00:22:08 – STACK INTO THE AIR.
00:22:10 – ANNE HEDGES: MERCURY, LEAD, ARSENIC,
00:22:13 – ALL OF THESE HAZARDOUS POLLUTANTS, THEY'RE HAZARDOUS;
00:22:17 – THEY'RE TOXIC TO PEOPLE'S HEALTH;
00:22:18 – THEY'RE TOXIC TO WILDLIFE.
00:22:20 – THEY END UP SOME PLACE.
00:22:22 – THEY END UP IN THE AIR.
00:22:23 – OR, THEY END UP IN THE WATER.
00:22:25 – THE COMMUNITY HAS ALREADY SUED THE PLANT FOR CONTAMINATING
00:22:28 – THEIR GROUND WATER.
00:22:30 – THAT WAS THEIR DRINKING WATER SOURCE.
00:22:32 – THE PLANT PAID $25 MILLION TO THAT COMMUNITY AND NONE OF
00:22:36 – THAT MONEY WENT TO CLEAN UP.
00:22:38 – THE STATE STILL DOESN'T HAVE A CLEANUP PLAN.
00:22:40 – ALEXIS BONOGOFSKY: SO, IN COLSTRIP,
00:22:42 – THE WATER GETS PUMPED FROM THE YELLOWSTONE RIVER,
00:22:44 – WHICH IS ABOUT 50 MILES NORTH OF TOWN.
00:22:46 – AND THEN IT GETS DISTRIBUTED TO TOWN AND THE COAL-FIRED
00:22:49 – POWER PLANT.
00:22:50 – THE FACT THAT THEY GET THEIR DRINKING WATER FROM THE
00:22:52 – YELLOWSTONE IS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T DRINK IT
00:22:54 – OUT OF THE WELLS.
00:22:57 – MIKE SCOTT: YOU KNOW, THESE COMPANIES SAY,
00:22:59 – WE CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.
00:23:00 – WE CARE ABOUT YOU.
00:23:02 – AND THEY TEND TO SAY THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS ARE
00:23:05 – OVER BLOWN; EVERYTHING'S FINE.
00:23:08 – DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
00:23:09 – AND A LOT OF PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT.
00:23:12 – JOHN WILLIAMS: WE'VE NEVER HAD ANY ISSUES OF POLLUTION.
00:23:15 – THERE'S BEEN SOME CHALLENGES OVER THE YEARS CONNECTED WITH
00:23:18 – GROUND WATER AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
00:23:20 – BUT THE COMPANIES HAS GOTTEN IN, INVOLVED WITH THEM.
00:23:22 – BUT, WE'VE NEVER HAD ANY ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH
00:23:24 – POLLUTION, OR DUST, OR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
00:23:27 – JIM ATCHISON: THESE ARE SOME OF THE CLEANEST POWER PLANTS
00:23:29 – IN THE COUNTRY, PERCENTAGE-WISE OF THE COAL
00:23:30 – THAT THEY BURN.
00:23:32 – THE AIR IS NOT A PROBLEM.
00:23:33 – DUANE ANKNEY: IF, THEY'RE DOING' SOMETHING' WRONG,
00:23:35 – THESE MINES OR POWER PLANTS THEN,
00:23:37 – TAKE THEM TO TASK FOR IT.
00:23:39 – BUT, AS FAR AS I CAN SEE, WE DO IT RIGHT IN MONTANA.
00:23:44 – ANNE HEDGES: YOU HAVE A FACILITY THAT WAS BUILT IN THE
00:23:46 – 1970S, LIKE SO MANY COAL PLANTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
00:23:50 – THEY WERE BUILT IN A TIME WHEN THEY WERE GRANDFATHERED IN
00:23:53 – UNDER THE ORIGINAL CLEAN AIR ACT.
00:23:55 – AND AT THAT TIME, CONGRESS SAID,
00:23:57 – “BUT, WHEN THESE FACILITIES AGE,
00:23:59 – THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MODIFY.
00:24:01 – THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO UPGRADE THEIR POLLUTION
00:24:03 – CONTROL EQUIPMENT; THEIR BOILERS; THEIR TURBINES.”
00:24:06 – WELL, WHAT PLANTS DID ALL OVER THE NATION,
00:24:09 – INCLUDING AT COLSTRIP, IS THEY CHOSE TO NEVER MODERNIZE.
00:24:14 – BRUCE NILLES: SO, THE SIERRA CLUB AND OUR ALLIES SET OFF IN
00:24:17 – STATE AFTER STATE, ENGAGING LOCAL COMMUNITIES AROUND
00:24:19 – PUBLIC HEALTH, CRISIS ASSOCIATED WITH COAL-FIRED
00:24:21 – POWER PLANTS.
00:24:23 – AND WHEN REGULATORS WERE UNWILLING AND AREN'T ABLE TO
00:24:25 – CRACK DOWN ON THE POLLUTION, WE BROUGHT LAWSUITS TO RETIRE
00:24:28 – APPROXIMATELY 500 EXISTING COAL PLANTS.
00:24:30 – ANCHOR: AS THE WOOD RIVER POWER STATION SHUTS DOWN…
00:24:32 – ANCHOR 2: B.C. COBB POWER PLANT WILL BE SHUTTING DOWN.
00:24:34 – REPORTER: FEW HERE THOUGHT THE FACILITY WOULD BE
00:24:36 – FORCED INTO RETIREMENT.
00:24:38 – BRUCE NILLES: WE BROUGHT ONE LEGAL APPEAL EVERY 3 DAYS.
00:24:40 – AT THE TIME WE STARTED, THERE WAS 523 COAL PLANTS.
00:24:43 – AND WE'RE ALMOST HALFWAY, IN TERMS OF RETIRING HALF
00:24:45 – THE U.S. COAL FLEET.
00:24:47 – CARL POPE: THERE'S ONE OTHER THING ABOUT COAL PLANTS.
00:24:49 – ENERGY CONSUMERS IN BIG CITIES ARE SAYING, WAIT A MINUTE!
00:24:52 – I CAN GET SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S CHEAPER AND CLEANER?
00:24:56 – WHAT'S NOT TO LIKE?
00:24:58 – MARY ANNE HITT: THERE WAS PRESSURE COMING BOTH FROM
00:25:00 – WASHINGTON AND OREGON.
00:25:02 – BOTH OF THOSE STATES PASSED LAWS SO THAT THEY COULD
00:25:04 – EXTRICATE THEMSELVES FROM THEIR POWER THEY WERE BRINGING
00:25:08 – IN FROM COLSTRIP.
00:25:09 – AND MOVE TO CLEAN ENERGY.
00:25:11 – DOW CONSTANTINE: WE WANTED TO DO OUR PART, FIRST OF ALL,
00:25:14 – TO REDUCE CLIMATE EMISSIONS.
00:25:15 – THAT'S WHAT OUR RESIDENTS WANT.
00:25:17 – AND WE WORK WITH THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND PUGET SOUND
00:25:20 – ENERGY TO NOT JUST SHIFT THAT COAL-FIRED ENERGY
00:25:23 – TO ANOTHER REGION.
00:25:24 – BUT TO SHUT THOSE PLANTS DOWN.
00:25:27 – DUANE ANKNEY: UNFORTUNATELY, WASHINGTON LEGISLATURE DECIDED
00:25:30 – NO MORE COAL-BY-WIRE.
00:25:33 – AND IN THE BACKGROUND WAS THE LAWSUIT OVER THESE PLANTS.
00:25:39 – THE SETTLEMENT WAS REACHED OUT OF COURT THAT THERE WOULD BE A
00:25:41 – CLOSURE OF 1 AND 2 BY 2022.
00:25:46 – ANCHOR: BIG NEWS, TODAY, ON MONTANA'S COAL-FIRED COLSTRIP
00:25:49 – POWER PLANTS.
00:25:50 – OWNERS OF THE FOUR PLANTS HAVE AGREED TO CLOSE COLSTRIP
00:25:52 – PLANTS 1 AND 2 BY 2022, PART OF A SETTLEMENT OF A
00:25:57 – CLEAN AIR LAWSUIT.
00:26:00 – LORI SHAW: WHEN WE FIRST FOUND OUT THE NEWS OF 1 AND 2 BEING
00:26:03 – SHUT DOWN, I WOULD SAY THE INITIAL REACTION OF THIS
00:26:06 – COMMUNITY WAS NOTHING SHORT OF SHOCK AND PANIC.
00:26:10 – SUDDENLY, EVERYONE WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT: WHAT ARE WE
00:26:12 – GOING TO DO?
00:26:13 – WHO'S GOING TO HAVE TO LEAVE?
00:26:15 – BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO.
00:26:17 – WHEN YOU SHUTDOWN HALF A POWER PLANT THAT SUSTAINS A CITY,
00:26:20 – THAT MEANS HALF OF THOSE PEOPLE
00:26:22 – ARE GOING TO HAVE TO LEAVE.
00:26:24 – MIKE SCOTT: COLSTRIP WAS ACTUALLY MAKING A LOT OF MONEY.
00:26:26 – AND WHEN THEY WERE MAKING A LOT OF MONEY,
00:26:27 – PUGET SOUND ENERGY CHOSE NOT TO PUT ON THE TECHNOLOGY THAT
00:26:31 – WOULD HAVE MADE OUR CLEAN AIR ACT LAWSUIT IMPOSSIBLE.
00:26:36 – JOHN WILLIAMS: PUGET IS TAKING A POSITION WHERE THEY'RE GOING
00:26:38 – TO TAKE THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE BECAUSE OF SOME
00:26:42 – SUITS THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED ON THEM BY THE SIERRA CLUB.
00:26:46 – AND THEY WANT TO REMOVE THEMSELVES FROM THE STATE AND
00:26:49 – THE RESPONSIBILITIES TO, TO THE STATE AND RESPONSIBILITIES
00:26:52 – TO OUR COMMUNITY.
00:26:56 – DUANE ANKNEY: BLUE-COLLAR PEOPLE ALWAYS TAKE IT
00:26:57 – IN THE SHORTS.
00:27:00 – YOU HAVE A BIG PLANT LAYOFF, OR BIG PLANT SHUTDOWN
00:27:03 – SOMEWHERE, HIT THE ROAD.
00:27:07 – JUST BE THANKFUL I GAVE YOU A JOB.
00:27:10 – AND I THINK THESE COMPANIES HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO THOSE
00:27:14 – PEOPLE THAT MADE THESE PLANTS PRODUCE AT SOME OF THE HIGHEST
00:27:19 – RELIABILITY IN THE UNITED STATES.
00:27:22 – AND NOW YOU JUST WANT TO WALK AWAY FROM IT?
00:27:25 – NAH.
00:27:30 – CARL POPE: THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN A TOWN CREATED BY COAL MINING
00:27:35 – AND COAL BURNING CAN'T IMAGINE A FUTURE WITHOUT IT.
00:27:39 – THEIR JOBS ARE DEPENDENT ON IT;
00:27:40 – THEIR TOWN IS DEPENDENT ON IT.
00:27:41 – THEIR TOWN IN SOME SENSE EXISTS BECAUSE OF COAL MINING.
00:27:47 – BUT, THERE'S BEEN TREMENDOUS RESISTANCE TO THE COAL MINING
00:27:49 – AND THE COAL BURNING ON THE PART OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE
00:27:52 – THERE FIRST, ON THE PART OF NATIVE AMERICANS,
00:27:54 – OR ON THE PART OF RANCHERS WHO SURROUND THOSE
00:27:56 – COAL MINING OPERATIONS.
00:28:06 – LJ TURNER: THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE LOSS OF
00:28:08 – OUR SPRING WATER HAS DONE.
00:28:11 – THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN THIS
00:28:13 – SPRING DRY IN MY LIFETIME.
00:28:17 – WE'VE PROBABLY HAVE 20 OF THESE SPRINGS LIKE THIS THAT
00:28:21 – ARE JUST, THEY'RE ALL LIKE THIS.
00:28:24 – THEY'VE JUST DRIED UP AND ARE GONE.
00:28:27 – AND IT USED TO BE THERE WAS FISH IN THERE AND IT WAS JUST
00:28:32 – AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT WORLD THAN WHAT WE'RE
00:28:34 – COMING IN TO NOW.
00:28:36 – COAL IS A WONDERFUL THING.
00:28:38 – BUT, IT'S, COMES AT A PRETTY EXPENSIVE COST.
00:28:46 – ANNE HEDGES: COAL IN THIS AREA SITS IN AN AQUIFER.
00:28:50 – AND IN ORDER TO GET TO THAT COAL YOU'VE GOT TO
00:28:53 – REMOVE THE AQUIFER.
00:28:56 – ALEXIS BONOGOFSKY: WHEN A COAL MINE GOES IN AND
00:28:59 – DISTURBS AN AQUIFER,
00:29:00 – THAT JUST STOPS THAT WATER FROM GOING TO WHERE IT USED TO GO.
00:29:03 – SO, SPRINGS DRY UP.
00:29:05 – AND BECAUSE WE LIVE IN AN ARID COUNTRY HERE,
00:29:10 – WE HARDLY GET ANY PRECIPITATION.
00:29:12 – SO, ALL THE WATER FOR WILDLIFE, PEOPLE, LIVESTOCK,
00:29:14 – IT COMES FROM WELLS.
00:29:16 – IT COMES FROM UNDER THE GROUND.
00:29:18 – LJ TURNER: WE'VE HAD STOPPED RUNNING ABOUT 100 HEAD OF
00:29:21 – CATTLE THAT WE ALWAYS, THAT WE COULD HAVE RUN HERE,
00:29:24 – THE YEAR ROUND BECAUSE WE'VE LOST THAT MUCH VEGETATION FROM
00:29:29 – THE LACK OF THE WATER THERE TO CHARGE IT.
00:29:33 – MIKE SCOTT: YES, COAL DOES BRING PROSPERITY.
00:29:35 – BUT, WHAT DO WE DO IF THERE'S NO WATER?
00:29:38 – THERE IS NO PROSPERITY WITHOUT WATER.
00:29:40 – SO, THAT BRINGS UP THE ISSUE OF ONE INDUSTRY
00:29:42 – AGAINST ANOTHER.
00:29:49 – JEANIE ALDERSON: COME ON, LET'S KEEP UP GUYS.
00:29:50 – COME ON, MAMA.
00:29:52 – COME ON, COME ON.
00:29:53 – IT LOOKS, KIND OF, GREEN NOW.
00:29:55 – BUT, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF WATER HERE.
00:29:57 – AND I THINK, THAT'S THE PART THAT WE CAN,
00:29:58 – WE CAN HANDLE SOME OF THE INCONVENIENCE;
00:30:00 – SOME OF THE SURFACE DAMAGE.
00:30:02 – BUT, WE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO STAY HERE HAVING A
00:30:05 – MASSIVE COAL MINE AROUND.
00:30:12 – ALEXIS BONOGOFSKY: OTTER CREEK VALLEY AND THE TONGUE RIVER
00:30:14 – VALLEY ARE ONE OF, PROBABLY, THE LARGEST UNDEVELOPED AREAS
00:30:18 – IN THE POWDER RIVER BASIN WHERE WILDLIFE, AGRICULTURE,
00:30:24 – TRIBAL, HISTORIC AND CULTURAL SITES EXIST.
00:30:27 – IN A WAY THAT THEY EXISTED HUNDREDS OF YEARS AGO.
00:30:31 – BUT THE COAL RESERVES IN SOUTHEAST MONTANA ARE ENORMOUS.
00:30:35 – AND PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN TALKING ABOUT POSSIBLY
00:30:38 – DEVELOPING THE OTTER CREEK COAL TRACKS.
00:30:40 – REPORTER: THE STATE LAND BOARD LEASED THE OTTER CREEK COAL
00:30:42 – TRACTS NEAR ASHLAND TO ARCH COAL FOR $86 MILLION UP FRONT.
00:30:47 – THAT DEAL WAS BASED ON $15 A TON.
00:30:50 – ALEXIS BONOGOFSKY: IN 2010, ARCH COAL,
00:30:52 – THE SECOND LARGEST COAL COMPANY IN THE UNITED STATES
00:30:54 – AT THAT TIME LEASED THOSE COAL TRACKS,
00:30:57 – WHICH IF DEVELOPED WOULD HAVE BEEN THE LARGEST COAL MINE IN
00:31:00 – THE UNITED STATES.
00:31:02 – AND SO THAT STARTED THE SIX-YEAR ORGANIZING CAMPAIGN
00:31:06 – TO STOP THE OTTER CREEK COAL MINE AND THE TONGUE RIVER
00:31:09 – RAILROAD, WHICH WAS NECESSARY TO GET THAT COAL TO MARKET.
00:31:14 – MIKE SCOTT: THE FIGHT AGAINST THE OTTER CREEK MINE AND
00:31:15 – THE TONGUE RIVER RAILROAD, I THINK,
00:31:17 – IS ONE OF THE MORE INTERESTING ONES,
00:31:19 – UM THAT'S HAPPENED IN THIS WHOLE DEBATE ABOUT HOW WE MOVE
00:31:21 – FORWARD WITH COAL BECAUSE IT BROUGHT TOGETHER JUST A WEIRD
00:31:26 – UH COALITION OF PEOPLE.
00:31:28 – BRAD SAUER: WELL, H***, IT WAS COWBOYS AND INDIANS TOGETHER.
00:31:31 – I MEAN, THINK ABOUT THAT.
00:31:33 – IT WAS MY CHEYENNE NEIGHBORS AND THEN AMISH FOLKS,
00:31:36 – AND RANCHERS.
00:31:38 – IT WAS PEOPLE THAT HAVE TIES TO THE LAND THAT MAY NOT AGREE
00:31:42 – ON ANYTHING ELSE.
00:31:44 – BUT, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS LAND CAN TAKE CARE OF US
00:31:49 – AS A SOCIETY, IF, WE TAKE CARE OF IT.
00:31:54 – CONRAD FISHER: OUR ANCESTORS FOUGHT HARD TO
00:31:57 – GIVE US THIS LAND.
00:31:58 – NOT ONLY ARE THE PLANTS AND ANIMALS IMPORTANT.
00:32:01 – BUT, ALSO, THE, THE CULTURAL LANDSCAPE.
00:32:04 – AND THE ANCESTORS THAT ARE BURIED THERE.
00:32:07 – BUT, WHEN YOU HAVE OPEN PIT COAL MINES,
00:32:10 – THOSE ARE IMPACTS THAT CAN LAST FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.
00:32:16 – MIKE SCOTT: EVEN, THOUGH, THERE WERE PEOPLE ON THE
00:32:18 – CHEYENNE RESERVATION THAT THOUGHT, MAYBE WE SHOULD DO THIS
00:32:21 – BECAUSE JOBS ARE VERY HARD TO COME BY THERE.
00:32:23 – BUT THEY, BY IN LARGE, DIDN'T WANT IT.
00:32:26 – CONRAD FISHER: WE ALL WANT TO HAVE A HOUSE AND
00:32:28 – A TWO-CAR GARAGE.
00:32:29 – BUT, THE QUESTION IS SHOULD IT BE BY DESTROYING THE LAND
00:32:33 – THAT WE LIVE IN.
00:32:37 – MIKE SCOTT: AND IN THE RANCHING COMMUNITY IN THE AREA
00:32:38 – WAS VERY MUCH AGAINST IT.
00:32:41 – THEY, ALSO, WERE FACED WITH CONDEMNATION.
00:32:43 – SO, THAT THIS RAILROAD COULD GET BUILT TO SHIP THE COAL OUT
00:32:46 – OF OTTER CREEK.
00:32:48 – IRV ALDERSON: THE COAL COMPANIES WANTED TO
00:32:50 – LEASE THIS LAND.
00:32:51 – AND IN ORDER TO HARVEST THE COAL AND GET IT OUT OF HERE,
00:32:53 – THEY HAD TO HAVE A RAILROAD.
00:32:55 – WELL, THAT WAS ALSO A PRETTY SCARY PART BECAUSE IT
00:32:59 – GOES RIGHT THROUGH YOUR PROPERTY.
00:33:01 – AND OF COURSE, THE ORIGINAL RAILROAD WENT THROUGH MY BULL
00:33:06 – PASTURE RIGHT BEHIND THE SCHOOL.
00:33:10 – WELL, THAT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN VERY NICE, WOULD IT?
00:33:12 – ONLY SCHOOL WE'VE GOT IN THE COMMUNITY WITH A RAILROAD
00:33:15 – RIGHT, WITHIN 50 YARDS OF IT.
00:33:17 – JEANIE ALDERSON: IT'S HARD FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE,
00:33:19 – YEAH, YOU LOOK AT IT ON A MAP.
00:33:20 – AND IT JUST GOES THROUGH YOUR PROPERTY AND JUST, YOU KNOW,
00:33:23 – IN OUR CASE, IT WENT THROUGH A MILE,
00:33:25 – THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE OF OUR RANCH,
00:33:27 – WHICH TO SOMEONE WHO'S JUST LOOKING AT A MAP,
00:33:28 – THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE MUCH.
00:33:30 – BUT, WHEN IT'S CUTTING YOUR CATTLE OFF FROM WATER,
00:33:33 – IT MAKES A WHOLE CHUNK OF COUNTRY WORTHLESS.
00:33:37 – BRAD SAUER: WE HAD LOTS OF MEETINGS TALKING ABOUT IT
00:33:39 – BRINGING UP THE SHORTCOMINGS;
00:33:41 – ASKING IF THEY'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THIS.
00:33:43 – AND NO, THEY HAVEN'T.
00:33:44 – SO, WE GOT TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD.
00:33:46 – JEANIE ALDERSON: AND THERE WERE SOME REALLY FRUSTRATING
00:33:48 – TIMES WHERE WE HAD JUST NOT ENOUGH, KIND OF,
00:33:51 – VOICE IT JUST DIDN'T SEEM LIKE WE MATTERED.
00:33:53 – ALEXIS BONOGOFSKY: IT TOOK YEARS OF ORGANIZING TO GET
00:33:55 – ANYONE IN HELENA TO PAY ATTENTION.
00:33:57 – BUT, THEY DID.
00:33:58 – ANCHOR: A FEDERAL BOARD DISMISSES TONGUE RIVER
00:34:01 – RAILROAD COMPANIES $400 MILLION APPLICATION TO BUILD A
00:34:04 – COAL-HAULING TONGUE RIVER RAILROAD.
00:34:07 – ALEXIS BONOGOFSKY: AT THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE
00:34:09 – TONGUE RIVER RAILROAD, EVERYONE CAME TOGETHER AND
00:34:12 – SAID, “NO, WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE.
00:34:15 – THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY AND WE'RE GOING TO PROTECT IT.”
00:34:17 – AND THAT COMMUNITY WAS ABLE TO STOP THE LARGEST PROPOSED COAL
00:34:21 – MINE IN THE COUNTRY.
00:34:22 – A FIGHT LIKE THIS WILL HAPPEN AGAIN.
00:34:24 – BUT, IT'LL BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY THAT
00:34:26 – FOUGHT OFF ARCH COAL AND BURLINGTON NORTHERN AND
00:34:30 – BILLIONAIRES WILL EXIST INTO THE FUTURE.
00:34:33 – AND THOSE SAME PEOPLE WILL BE READY TO FIGHT
00:34:37 – WHATEVER COMES NEXT.
00:34:45 – [EXPLOSION].
00:34:49 – MARY ANNE HITT: WHEN MOST PEOPLE THINK ABOUT COAL MINING,
00:34:52 – THEY PROBABLY IMAGINE SOMEONE WITH A HELMET AND A
00:34:54 – LAMP ON THE FRONT GOING UNDERGROUND.
00:34:57 – BUT, MOUNTAINTOP REMOVAL IS A VERY DIFFERENT PROCESS.
00:35:02 – RICHARD MARTIN: WHAT HAPPENED IN APPALACHIA, OF COURSE,
00:35:04 – IS THEY'VE ALREADY MINED OUT THE EASY TO GET COAL.
00:35:07 – SO, THEY JUST STARTED CARVING OFF THE TOPS OF THE MOUNTAINS.
00:35:11 – MARY ANNE HITT: THE COAL IS IN THE MOUNTAIN LIKE
00:35:12 – LAYERS IN A CAKE.
00:35:14 – AND SO THEY BLOW UP A LAYER OF ROCK.
00:35:15 – THEY SHOVE THAT INTO THE VALLEY.
00:35:17 – AND THEY TAKE AWAY THE LAYER OF COAL.
00:35:18 – THEN, THEY BLOW UP THE NEXT LEVEL OF ROCK;
00:35:20 – SHOVE THAT INTO THE VALLEY BELOW,
00:35:22 – WHICH OFTEN TIMES IS HOME TO A STREAM.
00:35:24 – MAYBE, EVEN, COMMUNITIES.
00:35:26 – AND THEN TAKE OFF THE NEXT LEVEL OF COAL.
00:35:28 – AND SO, COAL COMPANIES HAVE BEEN DOING THIS BECAUSE IT'S
00:35:30 – MORE PROFITABLE.
00:35:31 – IT'S CHEAPER FOR THEM.
00:35:32 – IT REQUIRES FAR FEWER WORKERS.
00:35:34 – BUT, IT IS DEVASTATING TO THE HEALTH OF PEOPLE LIVING NEAR
00:35:37 – THESE SITES.
00:35:38 – AND OBVIOUSLY, DEVASTATING TO THE ENVIRONMENT.
00:35:41 – [EXPLOSION].
00:35:47 – TO ME, AS SOMEBODY WHO HAD GROWN UP IN THE MOUNTAINS AND
00:35:50 – LOVE THE MOUNTAINS, THE IDEA THAT A COAL COMPANY WOULD HAVE
00:35:54 – THE RIGHT TO BLOW UP AN ENTIRE MOUNTAIN AND WIPE IT
00:35:57 – OFF THE MAP, FOREVER, WAS JUST UNCONSCIONABLE.
00:36:01 – THESE PLACES ARE NOT JUST, SORT OF,
00:36:03 – PHYSICALLY IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE.
00:36:05 – BUT, THEY'RE SPIRITUALLY IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE.
00:36:07 – AND ONCE THEY'RE GONE, THEY'RE GONE FOREVER.
00:36:11 – YOU CAN'T PUT A MOUNTAIN BACK TOGETHER.
00:36:13 – AND I JUST, DEEPLY FEEL THAT
00:36:18 – NO COMPANY HAS THE RIGHT TO TAKE AWAY SOMETHING
00:36:21 – THAT ULTIMATELY BELONGS AND MATTERS TO SO MANY PEOPLE.
00:36:34 – JUST LOOK ACROSS THE VALLEY NEXT DOOR,
00:36:38 – THAT'S WHAT IT USED TO BE LIKE, YOU KNOW.
00:36:40 – AND ONE OF THE MOST DIVERSE FOREST ON THE PLANET.
00:36:42 – AND NOW IT'S A WASTELAND.
00:36:46 – OVER THERE USED TO BE A VALLEY.
00:36:48 – AND A STREAM THAT'S NOW COVERED UP WITH THOUSANDS OF
00:36:51 – FEET OF BOULDERS.
00:36:53 – THAT'S NEVER GOING TO BE THE SAME, AGAIN.
00:36:55 – AND IT'S OVER 2,000 MILES OF STREAM HAVE BEEN
00:36:58 – BURIED IN APPALACHIA.
00:36:59 – SOME OF THE MOST DIVERSE STREAMS ON THE PLANET.
00:37:01 – SOME OF THE CLEANEST WATER ON THE PLANET.
00:37:02 – AND THAT IS A HUGE LOSS TO THIS,
00:37:05 – TO THIS PART OF THE WORLD.
00:37:09 – MARGARET PALMER: WHEN THAT ROCK MATERIAL IS PUSHED OVER
00:37:11 – THE EDGE OF THE NOW FLATTENED MOUNTAIN,
00:37:13 – IT ENDS UP DISSOLVING A LOT OF MINERALS INTO THE WATER.
00:37:17 – THINGS LIKE IRON, MAGNESIUM, CALCIUM AND ORGANISMS
00:37:20 – CAN'T TOLERATE THAT.
00:37:21 – SO, IT KILLS ORGANISMS IN THE STREAM.
00:37:24 – AND SO THAT MATERIAL, THAT WATER THAT IS NOW
00:37:26 – HEAVILY POLLUTED RUNS OUT OF THE BASE OF THE
00:37:28 – VALLEY FILL INTO STREAMS.
00:37:30 – AND EVENTUALLY, INTO RIVERS BELOW.
00:37:32 – MARY ANNE HITT: THEY ALSO STORE THE MINING WASTE IN
00:37:35 – THESE HUGE EARTHEN DAMS.
00:37:37 – AND THEY'RE HOLDING BACK BILLIONS OF GALLONS OF TOXIC
00:37:39 – SLUDGE THAT'S LEAKING INTO THE DRINKING WATER.
00:37:43 – REGINA LILLY: EVERYBODY'S WELLS PRETTY MUCH IS
00:37:45 – CONTAMINATED IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER.
00:37:48 – SO, I DON'T USE THE WATER TO COOK.
00:37:50 – I USE IT TO DO THE DISHES.
00:37:52 – BUT, THAT'S ABOUT IT CAUSE YOU CAN WIPE THE WATER OFF.
00:37:54 – THERE'S A GUY THAT WE TEND TO HELP OUT EVERY NOW AND AGAIN.
00:38:00 – HE IS A, BLIND FROM THE WATER.
00:38:03 – HE COULD TAKE HIS WATER; TURN HIS WATER ON;
00:38:05 – PUT IT IN A CLEAR WATER BOTTLE PUT HIS HAND OVER IT;
00:38:08 – SET IT FOR A FEW SECONDS; EVEN, PUT A CAP ON IT;
00:38:10 – TAKE THE CAP OFF; AND, TAKE A LIGHTER AND LIGHT IT.
00:38:12 – AND THE WATER WILL BURN.
00:38:13 – SO, YEAH.
00:38:15 – WATER AROUND HERE IS PRETTY BAD.
00:38:17 – MARY ANNE HITT: THERE IS A STACK OF PEER-REVIEWED HEALTH
00:38:19 – STUDIES THAT DEMONSTRATE HIGHER RATES OF CANCER AND
00:38:23 – BIRTH DEFECTS AND PREMATURE DEATHS AROUND THESE
00:38:27 – MOUNTAINTOP REMOVAL SITES.
00:38:29 – IT'S A PUBLIC HEALTH DISASTER FROM START TO FINISH.
00:38:31 – [EXPLOSION].
00:38:43 – CARL POPE: COAL IS SIMPLY SUCH A MASSIVE PART
00:38:46 – OF THE GLOBAL ECONOMY.
00:38:48 – AND EVERY TON OF COAL THAT IS MINED AND BURNED DOES SO MUCH
00:38:51 – DAMAGE THAT IT IS PUBLIC HEALTH THREAT NUMBER ONE.
00:38:59 – ANCHOR: AS MUCH AS 80,000 TONS OF COAL ASH SPILLING INTO
00:39:02 – NORTH CAROLINA'S DAN RIVER.
00:39:04 – THAT SPILL ORIGINATING AT A CLOSED COAL PLANT OWNED
00:39:06 – BY DUKE ENERGY.
00:39:07 – BRIAN WILLIAMS: COAL ASH CAN BE TOXIC.
00:39:09 – THIS HAS ALREADY TURNED THE WATER GREY AND
00:39:11 – BROWN IN PLACES.
00:39:12 – REPORTER: A PIPE RUPTURED BENEATH DUKE'S COAL
00:39:15 – ASH POND SUNDAY.
00:39:16 – LOCAL ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS SAY THE WATER SUPPLY FOR
00:39:19 – NEARLY A MILLION PEOPLE AROUND CHARLOTTE COULD
00:39:20 – BE AT RISK, TOO.
00:39:30 – DEBORAH GRAHAM: I'VE BEEN LIVING HERE 29 YEARS.
00:39:32 – AND WE BOUGHT THIS HOUSE AFTER WE GOT MARRIED.
00:39:35 – MY HUSBAND'S PARENTS LIVED ABOUT A MILE DOWN THE ROAD.
00:39:38 – MY HUSBAND GREW UP RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
00:39:40 – DUKE POWER'S AT THE END OF THE ROAD.
00:39:43 – I'VE REALLY NEVER HEARD ABOUT COAL ASH UNTIL I SAW
00:39:45 – THE DAN RIVER ON TV.
00:39:46 – SO, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY MISGIVINGS ABOUT
00:39:48 – BEING HERE WHATSOEVER.
00:39:51 – BACK IN 2014, AFTER THE DAN RIVER SPILL,
00:39:54 – I GOT A LETTER ON MY DOOR SAYING THAT THERE WAS GOING TO
00:39:56 – BE A COMMUNITY MEETING AT THE FIRE STATION ABOUT
00:39:58 – THE COAL PLANT.
00:39:59 – AND THE COAL ASH IMPOUNDMENTS.
00:40:02 – AND SO, I LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
00:40:03 – AND I WANTED TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT IT.
00:40:08 – WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT THERE WAS A COAL ASH POND RIGHT
00:40:11 – ACROSS THE STREET DIAGONALLY FROM MY HOUSE,
00:40:13 – I'D NEVER SEEN IT.
00:40:15 – REALLY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS.
00:40:18 – SAM PERKINS: COAL-FIRED POWER PLANTS HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR
00:40:20 – ALMOST A CENTURY, NOW.
00:40:22 – AND WHEN YOU BURN COAL, YOU HAVE ASH LEFT OVER.
00:40:25 – AND WHAT HAS BEEN DONE FOR DECADES IS THAT ASH HAS BEEN
00:40:28 – MIXED WITH WATER, AND, SLUICED OVER TO A POND.
00:40:32 – FRANK HOLLEMAN: DUKE ENERGY TOOK THE SIMPLEST
00:40:35 – AND CHEAPEST ROUTE.
00:40:37 – THEY JUST DUG UNLINED PITS THAT LEAK DIRECTLY NEXT TO
00:40:43 – RIVERS, LAKES AND PEOPLE'S WELLS.
00:40:46 – ARSENIC, MERCURY, LEAD, SELENIUM, SOMETIMES, EVEN,
00:40:51 – SOME RADIOACTIVE MATERIALS.
00:40:53 – THINGS YOU DO NOT WANT IN UNDESIRABLE AMOUNTS IN YOUR
00:40:57 – BODY, IN YOUR KIDS, IN YOUR GRANDKIDS, IN YOUR FISH,
00:41:00 – OR IN YOUR DRINKING WATER.
00:41:02 – SAM PERKINS: NOW, THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WE'RE ACTIVELY SEEING
00:41:05 – IS THE CONTAMINATION OF PEOPLE'S WELLS AROUND THE
00:41:09 – PERIMETER OF THE SITE WHO'VE DRAWN GROUND WATER FOR THEIR
00:41:13 – DAILY DRINKING WATER.
00:41:19 – DEBORAH GRAHAM: “NORTH CAROLINA, DIVISION OF PUBLIC HEALTH
00:41:21 – RECOMMENDS THAT YOUR WELL WATER NOT BE USED FOR
00:41:24 – DRINKING AND COOKING.”
00:41:26 – DUKE ENERGY KNEW, LIKE, 50-SOME DAYS BEFORE I KNEW
00:41:31 – THAT, THAT MY WATER WAS CONTAMINATED.
00:41:34 – THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA KNEW 20 OR 30 DAYS BEFORE.
00:41:38 – THEY WAITED ALMOST SIX WEEKS FROM THE TIME SOMEBODY IN
00:41:42 – NORTH CAROLINA KNEW THAT MY WATER WAS CONTAMINATED,
00:41:45 – WAITED SIX WEEKS TO LET ME KNOW!
00:41:48 – FRANK HOLLEMAN: A PROFESSIONAL TOXICOLOGIST AT THE
00:41:51 – NORTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
00:41:54 – SENT PEOPLE WHO HAD HIGH LEVELS OF HEXAVALENT CHROMIUM AND
00:41:58 – VANADIUM AND OTHER SUBSTANCES, LETTERS WARNING THEM NOT TO
00:42:02 – DRINK THEIR WELL WATER.
00:42:05 – AND THAT STAYED IN EFFECT FOR A YEAR.
00:42:07 – AND THEN WITHOUT WARNING AFTER THE STATE GOT A NEW POLITICAL
00:42:11 – APPOINTEE SUDDENLY, LETTERS GO OUT THAT TELL PEOPLE IT'S OKAY
00:42:15 – TO DRINK THEIR WATER.
00:42:17 – REPORTER: DUKE MAINTAINS THAT ITS PLANTS DID NOT CONTAMINATE
00:42:19 – NEIGHBOR'S WELLS.
00:42:20 – PAIGE SHEEHAN: THE COAL ASH BASINS ARE NOT IMPACTING THE
00:42:23 – RESIDENT'S WELL WATER.
00:42:24 – WHAT IS IN THEIR WELLS IS NATURALLY-OCCURRING ALL OVER
00:42:28 – OUR STATE.
00:42:30 – DEBORAH GRAHAM: HERE'S MY FIRST LETTER.
00:42:32 – IT TELLS ME, I GOT TO HAVE RE-SAMPLING.
00:42:34 – A MONTH LATER, A LITTLE OVER A MONTH LATER, AGAIN.
00:42:37 – MY WELL WATER IS NOT SAFE TO DRINK.
00:42:39 – THEN THE THIRD LETTER I GET SAYS MY WATER IS SAFE TO DRINK
00:42:43 – ALMOST 11 MONTHS LATER.
00:42:46 – STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA SAYS THEY'RE LEADING THE NATION IN
00:42:47 – COAL ASH CLEANUP.
00:42:50 – THIS AIN'T LEADING NO NATION IN COAL ASH CLEANUP.
00:42:53 – TELLING PEOPLE TO DRINK CONTAMINATED WATER THAT YOU
00:42:56 – HAVE TOLD ME TWICE NOT TO DRINK?
00:42:59 – THAT'S NOT BEING A LEADER!
00:43:02 – FRANK HOLLEMAN: WHAT YOU HAVE IS A SYSTEM GUARANTEED TO
00:43:06 – POLLUTE; A SYSTEM OF PRIMITIVE STORAGE.
00:43:09 – WE WOULDN'T ALLOW ANYONE ELSE TO DO.
00:43:11 – AND A SYSTEM THAT IS PRIMED FOR CATASTROPHE.
00:43:15 – EVERY DAY THEY ARE POLLUTING GROUND WATER, RIVERS,
00:43:18 – AND LAKES WITH TOXIC METALS.
00:43:23 – CARL POPE: THE COMPANIES HAVE A REASON NOT TO CLEAN UP.
00:43:26 – THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO AND STILL MAKE COAL PROFITABLE.
00:43:30 – IF YOU TOOK ALL THE PROFIT THAT'S MADE BURNING COAL,
00:43:32 – IT'S NOT ENOUGH DOLLARS TO CLEAN UP AFTER THE MESS THAT
00:43:35 – COAL LEAVES BEHIND.
00:43:38 – BRUCE NILLES: COAL ASH IS AN ENORMOUS PROBLEM
00:43:40 – ACROSS THIS COUNTRY.
00:43:41 – THERE ARE ABOUT 1,000 COAL ASH SITES WITH VERY HEAVY LEVELS
00:43:44 – OF POLLUTION, ULTIMATELY ENDING UP IN SOME WATERWAY
00:43:46 – THAT PEOPLE ARE RELYING ON FOR DRINKING WATER.
00:43:50 – IT'S A TICKING TIME BOMB FOR MILLIONS OF AMERICANS.
00:43:54 – DEBORAH GRAHAM: OKAY, WHAT'S YOUR NAME BABY?
00:43:56 – GO ON, GO ON!
00:43:57 – FILL HER UP.
00:43:58 – SEND HER ON DOWN.
00:44:00 – WE KNOW THAT DUKE ENERGY IS NEVER GOING TO ADMIT THIS
00:44:03 – BECAUSE, IF, THEY DO, THERE'S SIX OTHER STATES WAITING TO
00:44:06 – POUND ON THEM.
00:44:07 – WE KNOW THAT.
00:44:09 – WE JUST WANT THEM TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
00:44:11 – CLEAN THE MESS UP, CLEAN UP THEIR OWN TRASH ON THEIR OWN
00:44:14 – PROPERTY JUST LIKE THEY WOULD EXPECT US TO DO.
00:44:17 – AND PROVIDE US CLEAN, SAFE WATER.
00:44:20 – WE KNOW TOO MUCH NOW TO TURN AROUND AND BACK UP.
00:44:23 – AND WE ARE NOT GOING AWAY.
00:44:42 – MAN: AIR QUALITY ALERT FOR DALLAS, FORT WORTH, TODAY.
00:44:45 – HIGH O-ZONE LEVELS ARE LEADING TO POOR AIR QUALITY.
00:44:47 – WOMAN: DOCTORS RECOMMEND THAT THE ELDERLY AND PEOPLE WITH
00:44:50 – ASTHMA STAY INDOORS.
00:44:51 – A NEW REPORT SHOWS DALLAS, FORT WORTH AIR QUALITY
00:44:53 – WORSENED RECEIVING AN F RATING.
00:44:55 – MAN: BAD NEWS FOR ANYONE WHO HAS ASTHMA,
00:44:57 – OR OTHER RESPIRATORY AILMENTS.
00:44:59 – LET'S TURN NOW TO THE WEEKEND WEATHER REPORT.
00:45:03 – MISTI O'QUINN: I'M GOING TO LET THAT START.
00:45:08 – I HAVE THREE KIDS.
00:45:10 – TWO, OF WHICH ARE ASTHMATIC.
00:45:13 – HE'S NOW THREE.
00:45:15 – AND WE'VE ALREADY HAD TWO BOUTS OF PNEUMONIA.
00:45:18 – THREE-DAY HOSPITAL STAY THE FIRST TIME.
00:45:20 – THE SECOND WAS A FIVE-DAY STAY.
00:45:23 – I THOUGHT IT WAS HEREDITARY.
00:45:25 – COME TO FIND OUT, IT IS NOT HEREDITARY.
00:45:27 – IT'S, IT'S ENVIRONMENTAL.
00:45:35 – RANDY LOFTIS: TEXAS IS A BIG COAL STATE.
00:45:37 – THERE'S A LINE OF COAL THAT, BASICALLY,
00:45:40 – RUNS FROM THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE STATE ALL THE WAY DOWN
00:45:43 – TO SAN ANTONIO.
00:45:45 – THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THIS LINE OF COAL BURNING POWER PLANTS
00:45:48 – NORTHEAST, EAST AND SOUTH OF DALLAS.
00:45:51 – IT'S LIGNITE, WHICH IS A VERY DIRTY, KIND OF,
00:45:54 – COAL THAT'S MAYBE, THE WORST STUFF THAT YOU CAN BURN TO
00:45:56 – MAKE ELECTRICITY.
00:45:58 – CHERELLE BLAZER: AND THOSE EMISSIONS FROM THE COAL-FIRED
00:46:00 – POWERED PLANT BLOW OVER DALLAS.
00:46:03 – AND MIX OVER DALLAS AND CREATE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF SMOG.
00:46:08 – ROBERT HALEY: WELL, AT FIRST, WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT THE
00:46:09 – COAL-FIRED POWER PLANTS WERE THE PROBLEM.
00:46:11 – BUT, AFTER SEVERAL YEARS OF STUDY,
00:46:14 – IT JUST BECAME VERY OBVIOUS THAT WAS THE SINGLE LARGEST
00:46:18 – SOURCE OF OZONE GENERATION IN NORTH TEXAS.
00:46:23 – THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS COAL-FIRED POWER PLANTS BELCH
00:46:27 – OUT NITROGEN COMPOUNDS.
00:46:30 – THEN, WAFT OVER THE WIND AND WHEN THEY GET IN A LARGE
00:46:33 – METROPOLITAN AREA, THE NITROGEN COMBINES WITH
00:46:37 – AUTOMOBILE EXHAUST AND SUNLIGHT ACTS AS A CATALYST IN
00:46:40 – PRODUCING OZONE AT THE GROUND LEVEL.
00:46:43 – AND OZONE IS ONE OF THE LEADING PRECIPITATING EFFECTS
00:46:47 – THAT CAUSE ASTHMA.
00:46:49 – AKINYEMI COOPER: GOOD MORNING.
00:46:51 – NURSE: HI, GOOD MORNING, HOW ARE YOU TODAY?
00:46:52 – AKINYEMI COOPER: I'M GOOD.
00:46:53 – NURSE: GOOD, HOW ARE YOU DOING?
00:46:55 – AKINYEMI COOPER: I HAD A 3-HOUR ASTHMA ATTACK LAST
00:46:56 – NIGHT BECAUSE MY LUNGS WERE CLOGGED.
00:47:02 – AND I JUST, I COULDN'T GET, IN,
00:47:05 – I COULDN'T EVEN GET THE MEDICINE IN ME TO EVEN GET
00:47:08 – RELIEF FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS.
00:47:10 – NURSE: AND JUST BREATHE.
00:47:12 – [BREATHING DEEPLY].
00:47:15 – ROBERT HALEY: NOBODY IS BORN WITH ASTHMA.
00:47:17 – CERTAIN PEOPLE HAVE A GENETIC PREDISPOSITION
00:47:20 – TO DEVELOPING IT.
00:47:22 – IF, THEY'RE EXPOSED TO CERTAIN THINGS THAT DAMAGE
00:47:25 – THEIR LUNGS, THEN, THEY WILL DEVELOP ASTHMA.
00:47:29 – CHILDREN WHO ARE EXPOSED ALL OF THEIR FORMATIVE YEARS TO
00:47:34 – HIGH OZONE AND PARTICULATE LEVELS FROM AIR POLLUTION
00:47:38 – THEIR LUNGS ARE DAMAGED.
00:47:41 – TRINITY O'QUINN: THIS IS ONE OF MY INHALERS.
00:47:43 – AND THIS IS MY CHAMBER.
00:47:45 – I HAVE, LIKE, PROBABLY THREE MORE,
00:47:48 – OR FOUR BECAUSE I HAVE TO KEEP A LOT WITH ME.
00:47:52 – THIS IS MY MACHINE.
00:47:56 – AND THIS IS MY MASK.
00:47:58 – I GOT THIS YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS YOUNGER.
00:48:10 – ROBERT HALEY: IF CHILDREN'S LUNGS ARE DAMAGED AS
00:48:12 – THEY GROW UP.
00:48:13 – THEIR LUNGS DO NOT DEVELOP AS FULLY.
00:48:15 – AND THERE MAYBE, A 20% REDUCTION IN LUNG CAPACITY
00:48:19 – WHEN YOU GET OUT OF PUBERTY, GET INTO ADULTHOOD.
00:48:24 – MISTI O'QUINN: OF COURSE, YOU FEEL AWFUL.
00:48:25 – AS A MAMA, YOU WANT TO FIX IT.
00:48:27 – YOU WANT YOUR BABY TO BE OKAY.
00:48:29 – YOU WANT YOUR KIDS TO BE HEALTHY.
00:48:31 – YOU JUST TRY TO DO THE BEST YOU CAN AND THAT'S IT.
00:48:35 – YOU DO THE MEDICINES.
00:48:36 – EVEN, THOUGH I DON'T NECESSARILY BELIEVE IN PUMPING
00:48:38 – THEM FULL OF MEDICINE.
00:48:40 – BUT, WHEN IT COMES TO THAT, I KNOW THAT THERE IS NO OPTION.
00:48:42 – CHILD: IT'S COLD.
00:48:43 – MISTI O'QUINN: IT IS COLD.
00:48:44 – IT'S YOUR LUNGS.
00:48:45 – IF, YOU DON'T BREATHE, THEN WHAT?
00:48:48 – CHERELLE BLAZER: WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AIR QUALITY IN DALLAS.
00:48:51 – AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THE SMOG PROBLEM?
00:48:52 – HALF OF IT COULD BE TAKEN CARE OF TODAY IF WE PUT SCRUBBERS
00:48:56 – ON ALL OF THOSE COAL PLANTS.
00:48:58 – OR, IF, WE SHUT DOWN THE DIRTIEST OF THOSE COAL PLANTS
00:49:00 – THAT REALLY SHOULDN'T BE RUNNING ANYMORE.
00:49:02 – BUT, THERE HAVE BEEN LOTS OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS THAT THE
00:49:05 – STATE WILL SUE TO NOT HAVE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH FOR ONE
00:49:09 – REASON OR ANOTHER.
00:49:10 – AND AS LONG AS THOSE LAWSUITS ARE GOING ON.
00:49:12 – THEN, COMPLIANCE DOESN'T HAVE TO GO FORWARD.
00:49:15 – SO, THESE INDUSTRIES HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SKIRT FEDERAL
00:49:18 – REGULATION THAT EVERY OTHER STATE IS SUBJECT TO.
00:49:21 – RICK PERRY: TODAY THE STATE OF TEXAS IS TAKING
00:49:24 – ITS CHALLENGE TO THE EPA.
00:49:26 – THIS LEGAL ACTION IS BEING TAKEN TO PROTECT
00:49:28 – THE TEXAS ECONOMY.
00:49:30 – AND THE JOBS THAT GO WITH IT.
00:49:32 – MARY ANNE HITT: WE NEED THESE HEALTH AND SAFETY SAFEGUARDS
00:49:34 – THAT THE EPA HAS PUT IN PLACE.
00:49:36 – IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE THAT WE'RE POISONING KIDS WITH
00:49:38 – MERCURY, OR WE'RE GIVING KIDS ASTHMA ATTACKS JUST SO THESE
00:49:41 – COMPANIES CAN MAKE A BIGGER PROFIT.
00:49:45 – ROBERT HALEY: DUE TO THE OZONE PROBLEM IN DALLAS AND THE
00:49:49 – SURROUNDING COUNTIES PER YEAR, WE'RE SEEING AN EXTRA
00:49:51 – 120,000 SCHOOL ABSENCES.
00:49:54 – AND 149,000 RESTRICTED ACTIVITY DAYS OF ADULTS.
00:50:00 – AND MOST IMPORTANT, WE'RE SEEING 70 DEATHS PER YEAR.
00:50:05 – ALTOGETHER THE ECONOMIC VALUE, OR COST OF THESE HEALTH
00:50:09 – PROBLEMS IS ABOUT $500 MILLION A YEAR IN DALLAS COUNTY AND
00:50:14 – THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES.
00:50:17 – CHERELLE BLAZER: IT BECAME IMPERATIVE, THEN,
00:50:19 – TO ORGANIZE PEOPLE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE AIR
00:50:21 – BECAUSE, ACTUALLY, IT'S SOMETHING THAT MOST CITIZENS
00:50:23 – SHOULD BE IN AN UPROAR ABOUT.
00:50:26 – HOW MANY PEOPLE IN HERE HAVE ASTHMA,
00:50:28 – OR KNOW SOMEONE WHO HAS ASTHMA?
00:50:30 – OKAY, THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE.
00:50:32 – AND WHAT I'M FINDING MORE AND MORE IS THAT MOST PEOPLE DO.
00:50:36 – AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT.
00:50:40 – ONCE YOU REALIZE THAT THERE'S SOME CORPORATE ENTITY OUTSIDE
00:50:44 – OF YOUR HOME AFFECTING YOUR FINANCES, YOUR HEALTH;
00:50:48 – YOUR CHILDREN'S HEALTH; YOU KNOW,
00:50:50 – THAT GETS PEOPLE RILED UP.
00:50:51 – AND THAT GETS THEM MOTIVATED TO WANT TO DO
00:50:53 – SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
00:50:54 – MISTI O'QUINN: OH, IT'S MADDENING!
00:50:56 – IT WILL P*** YOU OFF.
00:50:57 – ESPECIALLY, WHEN YOU CAN'T AFFORD THE MEDICINE.
00:51:00 – THEY HAVE THREE MEDICINES.
00:51:02 – ONE OF THEM ALONE IS, LIKE, $200 A BOX.
00:51:06 – AND THESE COMPANIES ARE MAKING ALL THIS MONEY.
00:51:09 – AND HERE YOU ARE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT.
00:51:12 – I'M JUST TRYING TO KEEP THEM BREATHING.
00:51:17 – BRUCE NILLES: DALLAS IS ONE OF MANY CITIES IN THE COUNTRY
00:51:18 – THAT IS PLAGUED WITH VERY DIRTY AIR.
00:51:22 – BUT, THERE IS A BIG DISCONNECT WHEN WE SOMETIMES GET LULLED
00:51:25 – INTO THE SENSE.
00:51:26 – WELL, THE REGULATORS ARE TAKING OF IT.
00:51:28 – SO GOVERNMENTS WOULDN'T ALLOW SOMEONE TO RUN A BUSINESS THAT
00:51:29 – WAS ACTUALLY HARMING THE RESIDENTS.
00:51:33 – WITH THE CLEAN AIR ACT, THERE IS A NATIONAL STANDARD THAT
00:51:35 – ALL AMERICANS ARE ENTITLED TO CLEAN AND SAFE AIR TO BREATHE.
00:51:40 – BUT, IN FACT, THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE A YEAR
00:51:42 – DYING FROM AIR POLLUTION FROM COAL-FIRED POWER PLANTS.
00:51:46 – BUT AGAIN, WE'RE, SORT OF, BEING LULLED INTO THIS SENSE OF,
00:51:48 – “OH, EVERYTHING'S FINE.”
00:51:52 – RANDY LOFTIS: EVERY TIME I WROTE AN AIR POLLUTION RELATED
00:51:54 – STORY, I WOULD GET NOTES FROM PEOPLE SAYING,
00:51:56 – I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY WHO'S EVER DIED OF THIS.
00:51:59 – AND MY RESPONSE WAS ALWAYS, “HOW DO YOU KNOW?”
00:52:02 – HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT YOUR UNCLE DIDN'T DIE TEN YEARS
00:52:04 – EARLIER THAN HE SHOULD HAVE?
00:52:06 – HOW DO YOU KNOW IT THAT YOUR GRANDSON WASN'T IN THE
00:52:08 – HOSPITAL LAST MONTH BECAUSE OF AIR POLLUTION.
00:52:10 – YOU DON'T KNOW THIS.
00:52:13 – NURSE: I WOULD LIKE TO DOUBLE-CHECK YOUR VITAL SIGNS.
00:52:17 – AKINYEMI COOPER: IT'S A FIGHT WITHIN MYSELF JUST TO BREATHE.
00:52:21 – AND KEEP A HAPPY FACE.
00:52:26 – AND IT'S HARD.
00:52:59 – MARILYN SEWELL: YOU FOLKS ARE AT A POSITION OF POWER AND
00:53:01 – AUTHORITY TODAY.
00:53:03 – THE FATE OF THE PLANET IS IN THE HANDS OF OUR GENERATION.
00:53:07 – AND YOU'LL HAVE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, THEN, AND,
00:53:09 – FOR THAT MATTER, ALL OF US WILL.
00:53:11 – HOW DID I ACT WHEN THE CHIPS WERE DOWN?
00:53:14 – BILL CHAPMAN: WE STAND HERE TODAY TO CELEBRATE THE NEXT
00:53:17 – STEP IN BRINGING MORE FAMILY-WAGED JOBS TO LONGVIEW.
00:53:21 – BETTER COAL, BETTER MARKETS, BETTER JOBS!
00:53:24 – [CHEERS].
00:53:26 – DANA MINIUM: I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT NOT ALLOWING THE COAL
00:53:29 – INDUSTRY TO DUMP 44 MILLION TONS OF COAL ON THE BANKS OF
00:53:33 – OUR COLUMBIA RIVER.
00:53:34 – [CHEERS].
00:53:36 – MIKE LEMONS: AND ALL YOU OPPONENTS HERE TONIGHT,
00:53:38 – WHO DON'T EVEN LIVE IN COWLITZ COUNTY,
00:53:40 – GO BACK TO YOUR FANCY OFFICES AND YOUR GLASS TOWERS.
00:53:43 – SIP ON YOUR OVER-PRICED COFFEE DRINKS, GO HOME.
00:53:45 – AND LET THE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY GET BACK TO WORK.
00:53:48 – SO, WE CAN PROSPER.
00:53:55 – RICHARD MARTIN: THE PLAN WAS TO SHIP COAL FROM THE
00:53:57 – POWDER RIVER BASIN IN WYOMING.
00:54:00 – TO THE WEST COAST AND BUILD THESE GIGANTIC COAL TERMINALS
00:54:02 – ON THE WEST COAST IN PLACES LIKE LONGVIEW, WASHINGTON
00:54:06 – TO LOAD THAT COAL ONTO SHIPS, TAKE IT ACROSS THE PACIFIC.
00:54:09 – AND SELL IT IN ASIA.
00:54:11 – ANCHOR: MILE-LONG TRAINS, MILLIONS OF POUNDS OF COAL,
00:54:13 – AND MORE THAN A DOZEN TRIPS A DAY THROUGH DOWNTOWN SEATTLE.
00:54:16 – THE CONTENTIOUS ISSUE HAD THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ON BOTH
00:54:19 – SIDES OF THE ARGUMENT JAMMED INTO THE
00:54:20 – CONVENTION CENTER TONIGHT.
00:54:22 – ALEXIS BONOGOFSKY: COAL HAS ALWAYS DIVIDED COMMUNITIES.
00:54:25 – THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN PEOPLE WHO FOUGHT IT AND,
00:54:27 – ALWAYS BEEN PEOPLE WHO'VE WANTED IT.
00:54:30 – MARY ANNE HITT: YOU NOT ONLY HAVE PEOPLE ON THE COASTS WHO
00:54:33 – ARE WORRIED ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE;
00:54:34 – WORRIED ABOUT THE LOCAL POLLUTION FROM THE,
00:54:36 – THE PROJECTS.
00:54:38 – BUT ALL ALONG THE RAIL LINES, LEADING ALL THE WAY BACK INTO
00:54:40 – MONTANA AND WYOMING.
00:54:41 – PEOPLE DON'T WANT THESE HUGE TRAINS FULL OF COAL AND COAL
00:54:44 – DUST BARRELING THROUGH THEIR COMMUNITIES DAY AND NIGHT.
00:54:48 – BRUCE NILLES: THE COAL TRAINS WERE GOING TO HAVE
00:54:49 – TWO BIG IMPACTS.
00:54:50 – ONE, DRAMATIC INCREASE IN TRAFFIC.
00:54:52 – AND THAT IN SOME OF THESE COMMUNITIES MEANT THAT THERE
00:54:54 – WAS GOING TO BE, LITERALLY, THE TOWN CUT IN HALF.
00:54:57 – ALEXIS BONOGOFSKY: THE RAIL LINE GOES DIRECTLY THROUGH
00:54:59 – DOWNTOWN BILLINGS, DOWNTOWN BOZEMAN, DOWNTOWN MISSOULA.
00:55:03 – THESE COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE NORTHWEST.
00:55:07 – AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE TO SIT THERE AND WAIT FOR A TRAIN.
00:55:09 – YOU'VE GOT HOSPITAL ON ONE SIDE AND YOU'VE GOT HALF OF
00:55:12 – TOWN ACROSS THE TRACKS.
00:55:14 – IF, YOU'RE WAITING FOR COAL TRAINS TO GO THROUGH,
00:55:17 – YOU KNOW, THAT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.
00:55:19 – DOW CONSTANTINE: LOCAL FARMERS AND RANCHERS CAN'T GET THEIR
00:55:22 – PRODUCTS ON TO TRAINS BECAUSE THE RAILS ARE OCCUPIED BY
00:55:27 – THESE LONG SLOW-MOVING TRAINS.
00:55:30 – AND THAT HAS A REAL IMPACT ON OUR ECONOMY IN THE STATE,
00:55:34 – IN THIS REGION.
00:55:36 – BRUCE NILLES: IT ALSO HAS HUGE PUBLIC HEALTH IMPLICATIONS.
00:55:39 – COAL TRAINS ARE THE ONLY PRODUCT MOVED WITHOUT COVERS.
00:55:42 – AND LITERALLY, BECAUSE OF THE WIND BLOWING THE COAL,
00:55:45 – EVERY COAL CAR LOSES AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF POLLUTION
00:55:50 – ALONG THE TRACKS FROM THE MINE ALL THE WAY TO THE PORT.
00:56:08 – DOW CONSTANTINE: COAL DUST ALONG THE WAY, OBVIOUSLY,
00:56:10 – CAN POLLUTE STREAMS AND LOCAL AIR,
00:56:13 – BUT IT COMES RIGHT THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS.
00:56:17 – AND THAT COAL DUST IS BEING DEPOSITED ALL ALONG THE WAY
00:56:20 – WHERE THOSE FAMILIES ARE TRYING TO RAISE THEIR KIDS.
00:56:23 – MARY LYONS: RIGHT AHEAD, THERE ARE THE TRACKS.
00:56:26 – AND YOU GET A FEELING FOR HOW CLOSE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD
00:56:29 – IS TO THAT TRAIN TRACK.
00:56:33 – AND WHERE THAT COAL IS GOING TO RUN.
00:56:35 – THE VULNERABILITY OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO THIS
00:56:39 – INDUSTRY IS SHOCKING.
00:56:44 – DOW CONSTANTINE: LONGVIEW'S A TOWN THAT HAS REALLY SUFFERED
00:56:46 – BECAUSE OF THE DECLINE OF THE TIMBER INDUSTRY.
00:56:49 – AND AND, SORT OF, THE LEGACY ECONOMY.
00:56:52 – AND THERE HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTS OVER THE YEARS TO
00:56:55 – BRING IN NEW INDUSTRY.
00:56:57 – BUT, IT'S HARD TO REPLACE THOSE FAMILY-WAGE JOBS.
00:57:01 – RALLY SPEAKER: WE ALL STAND HERE UNIFIED TOGETHER FOR ONE
00:57:04 – GOAL AND THAT'S GOOD JOBS.
00:57:06 – SO, IF, WE COULD, LET'S SEND A MESSAGE TO THE GOVERNOR.
00:57:08 – LET'S SEND A MESSAGE TO THE FOLKS OVER THERE.
00:57:10 – ALL: SOLIDARITY, SOLIDARITY!
00:57:13 – RALLY SPEAKER: THANK YOU MILLENNIUM!
00:57:15 – [CHEERS].
00:57:17 – MARY LYONS: PEOPLE ARE DESPERATE FOR JOBS.
00:57:19 – AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE NOT SO GUNG-HO ABOUT ANY JOB
00:57:23 – IS A GOOD JOB.
00:57:25 – WE CAN DO BETTER.
00:57:26 – CURTIS HART: THE WHOLE ENTIRE SIDE KEEPS SAYING THAT
00:57:28 – WE CAN DO BETTER.
00:57:29 – IF, WE COULD DO BETTER, BETTER WOULD BE COMING.
00:57:32 – THIS IS OUR COUNTY AND WE NEED JOBS.
00:57:34 – MICHAEL BRIDGES: WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 1,000
00:57:36 – CONSTRUCTION JOBS OVER A TWO-YEAR BUILD OUT.
00:57:38 – THERE'S PROJECTED 130 FULL-TIME JOBS FOR THE
00:57:42 – PRODUCTION WORKERS AND THE DOCK WORKERS.
00:57:44 – DANA MINIUM: THE PROMISE IS JOBS.
00:57:46 – YET, MILLENNIUM IS ONLY OFFERING 100,
00:57:48 – A TOTAL OF 135 JOBS BY THE YEAR OF 2028.
00:57:53 – REV. FAIRHURST: GIVE THESE PEOPLE JOBS THAT WILL TAKE
00:57:54 – THEM INTO THE REAL NEW MILLENNIUM.
00:57:57 – NOT THE LAST MILLENNIUM; THAT WAS THE DARK AGES.
00:58:00 – WE NEED REAL JOBS AND REAL COMMUNITY AND COAL ISN'T IT.
00:58:04 – SAY, NO.
00:58:22 – ETHAN ZINDLER: PUTTING ASIDE, THE, SORT OF,
00:58:24 – BATTLE OVER THE ENVIRONMENTAL THING IS THE WORLD REALLY
00:58:27 – GOING TO WANT THIS COAL?
00:58:28 – ARE OTHER COUNTRIES REALLY GOING TO BUY IT AT A PRICE
00:58:31 – THAT ALLOW U.S. DOMESTIC PRODUCERS TO MAKE REAL MONEY?
00:58:35 – AND I'M, I'M NOT CONVINCED OF THAT BY ANY MEANS.
00:58:37 – I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL, IF, THEY ARE GOING TO BURN COAL
00:58:39 – IN PLACES LIKE INDIA, OR IN CHINA.
00:58:41 – THEY WOULD MUCH RATHER BURN THEIR OWN.
00:58:42 – RICHARD MARTIN: AT ONE TIME CHINA WAS BUILDING A
00:58:44 – COAL PLANT EVERY WEEK.
00:58:46 – BUT, THE DEMAND IN CHINA IS DROPPING FAR MORE RAPIDLY THAN
00:58:49 – ANYONE HAD EVER PREDICTED.
00:58:51 – THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF COAL IN THEIR OWN DOMESTIC RESERVES.
00:58:54 – AND SO THAT MARKET JUST HASN'T BEEN THERE THE WAY THE COAL
00:58:58 – EXECUTIVES THOUGHT IT WOULD BE JUST A FEW YEARS AGO.
00:59:01 – SO, IN MANY WAYS, I DO SEE THE COAL INDUSTRY IN THE
00:59:05 – U.S. AS ON LIFE SUPPORT.
00:59:23 – DARRYL ANDERSON: WHAT HAPPENS AT THE MINE AND WHAT HAPPENS
00:59:25 – WITH THE SHIPMENTS OF COAL AFFECTS ALL OF US
00:59:27 – HERE IN GILLETTE.
00:59:29 – AND IF, THEY DON'T SURVIVE.
00:59:30 – THEN, I'M DONE, TOO.
00:59:32 – I AM CERTAIN THE BOOM IS OVER.
00:59:35 – I DON'T THINK THERE'LL BE ANOTHER BOOM HERE.
00:59:37 – I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT THE COAL OPERATORS, MAYBE,
00:59:40 – DIDN'T DO MORE TO, TO SAVE THEMSELVES.
00:59:44 – I WISH THAT THEY WOULD HAVE INVESTED MORE INTO CHANGING
00:59:46 – THEIR PRODUCTS SO THAT IT WAS MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY.
00:59:50 – IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH IT, LIKE, CLEAN COAL,
00:59:53 – I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN OR NOT.
00:59:55 – BUT, IT COULD BE A, IT COULD BE A VERY GOOD THING FOR US
00:59:58 – IF IT HAPPENS.
01:00:00 – BRUCE NILLES: ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO,
01:00:01 – THERE WAS A BIG PUSH BY THE COAL INDUSTRY PROMISING THAT
01:00:03 – THEY COULD MAKE COAL CLEAN.
01:00:05 – AND THE ONE PIECE OF THE CLEANUP OF COAL THAT THEY WERE
01:00:08 – NEVER ABLE TO WORK OUT WAS,
01:00:09 – WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT CARBON POLLUTION?
01:00:11 – AND SO THEY STARTED TALKING ABOUT, WELL,
01:00:12 – WE COULD JUST CAPTURE IT.
01:00:13 – PRESIDENT TRUMP: THERE IS A THING CALLED CLEAN COAL.
01:00:16 – COAL WILL LAST FOR 1,000 YEARS IN THIS COUNTRY.
01:00:19 – GREG BOYCE: CLEAN COAL IS A MADE-IN-AMERICA SOLUTION TO
01:00:21 – ENERGY SECURITY; ECONOMIC STIMULUS AND
01:00:24 – ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRESS.
01:00:26 – COMMERCIAL VOICE: CLEAN COAL, NOW IS THE TIME.
01:00:29 – IAN URBINA: IT'S A HOPE THAT GOES BACK MANY YEARS.
01:00:32 – YOU CAN LOOK AND SEE AS EARLY AS PRESIDENT REAGAN EFFORTS TO
01:00:35 – CULTIVATE THE, THIS TECHNOLOGY.
01:00:37 – PRESIDENT REAGAN: WITH OUR MODERN TECHNOLOGY, YES,
01:00:40 – WE CAN BURN OUR COAL WITHIN THE LIMITS OF THE
01:00:43 – CLEAN AIR ACT.
01:00:44 – I THINK AS TECHNOLOGY IMPROVES,
01:00:46 – WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO EVEN BETTER WITH THAT.
01:00:48 – PRESIDENT BUSH: LET US FUND NEW TECHNOLOGIES THAT CAN
01:00:51 – GENERATE COAL POWER, WHILE, CAPTURING CARBON EMISSIONS.
01:00:54 – PRESIDENT OBAMA: WE CAN DEVELOP THE TECHNOLOGY TO
01:00:56 – CAPTURE THE CARBON POLLUTION RELEASED BY COAL.
01:00:59 – IT CAN CREATE JOBS AND PROVIDE ENERGY WELL INTO THE FUTURE.
01:01:02 – IAN URBINA: SO, THE AMBITION IS REAL.
01:01:04 – AND THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY CAPTURE THIS CARBON
01:01:07 – HAS BEEN PROVEN.
01:01:09 – THE CONCEPT BEHIND CLEAN COAL IS CARBON CAPTURE AND
01:01:13 – SEQUESTRATION, OFTEN CALLED CCS.
01:01:16 – IT'S A PROCESS, IN WHICH YOU ARE CAPTURING THE CARBON
01:01:18 – BEFORE IT RELEASES INTO THE ENVIRONMENT.
01:01:21 – AND YOU'RE CONDENSING THAT CARBON, OFTEN,
01:01:23 – INTO A LIQUEFIED FORM.
01:01:26 – AND THEN YOU'RE, TYPICALLY, SENDING IT ELSEWHERE TO INJECT
01:01:28 – IT IN THE GROUND.
01:01:30 – MARK JACOBSON: BUT, IN ORDER TO RUN
01:01:32 – CARBON CAPTURE EQUIPMENT, YOU NEED 25% MORE COAL.
01:01:35 – SO REALLY, IT SHOULD BE DIRTY COAL BECAUSE THE ACTUAL AIR
01:01:37 – POLLUTION, WHICH IS THE SULFUR OXIDES, THE NITROGEN OXIDES,
01:01:40 – THE PARTICULATE MATTER, THE MERCURY,
01:01:43 – ALL THOSE CHEMICALS GO UP, 25%.
01:01:47 – CARL POPE: IF, WE CAN HAVE CHEAP AND CLEAN CCS THAT WOULD
01:01:50 – BE A GOOD THING.
01:01:52 – BUT, IT'S NOT COMPETITIVE.
01:01:54 – THE LATEST EXAMPLE IS THIS KEMPER PLANT IN MISSISSIPPI,
01:01:57 – WHICH WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE PROOF OF CLEAN COAL.
01:02:01 – ANCHOR: THE KEMPER COUNTY COAL PLANT PROJECT CONTINUES TO
01:02:03 – GARNER INTERNATIONAL ACCLAIM.
01:02:06 – MAN: ONCE WE GET THIS PLANT UP AND RUNNING SOMETIME
01:02:09 – NEXT YEAR, WE FEEL LIKE THAT THAT INTEREST
01:02:11 – WILL GROW EXPONENTIALLY.
01:02:13 – IAN URBINA: KEMPER WAS THE POSTER-CHILD PLANT THAT
01:02:16 – THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HOPED WOULD SHOW THAT THIS
01:02:19 – TECHNOLOGY IS FEASIBLE AND VIABLE AND ECONOMICAL.
01:02:23 – AND THEREFORE, WE COULD MOVE TO THE STAGE OF TRYING TO
01:02:26 – FIGURE OUT HOW TO REPLICATE IT.
01:02:28 – ANCHOR: THE COST WAS SUPPOSED TO BE $2.7 BILLION.
01:02:31 – IT'S NOW ALMOST DOUBLE THAT AT $5 BILLION.
01:02:33 – BRETT WINGO: I DON'T THINK THE ECONOMICS FOR THIS
01:02:35 – PLANT WAS EVER TRUE.
01:02:37 – IF, YOU SAW THE TRUE COST AND THE TRUE SCHEDULE,
01:02:39 – IT WOULD HAVE MADE KEMPER A NON-STARTER.
01:02:42 – IAN URBINA: IT'S NOW $4 BILLION OVER-BUDGET;
01:02:45 – TWO YEARS LATE; BEING INVESTIGATED BY THE SEC;
01:02:48 – FACING TWO LAWSUITS.
01:02:49 – SO IT HAS NOT WORKED OUT THE WAY THAT FOLKS HAD HOPED.
01:02:53 – BRUCE NILLES: THAT COAL PLANT IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE POWER
01:02:54 – PLANT EVER BUILT IN THE UNITED STATES.
01:02:57 – NO ONE WILL EVER, AGAIN, BUILD ONE OF THOSE QUOTE-CLEAN
01:03:00 – COAL PLANTS BECAUSE IT MAKES NO ECONOMIC SENSE
01:03:02 – IN TODAY'S WORLD.
01:03:05 – ANNE HEDGES: YOU KNOW, THIS IS ABOUT OPPORTUNITY COST.
01:03:07 – WHAT DO WE DO WITH OUR DOLLARS?
01:03:09 – IF, WE HAVE AN ENDLESS SUPPLY OF MONEY, MAYBE,
01:03:12 – WE CAN MAKE COAL A SMIDGEN CLEANER.
01:03:14 – IT DOESN'T CLEAN UP THE REST OF THE AIR.
01:03:16 – IT DOESN'T CLEAN UP THE WATER POLLUTION.
01:03:18 – IT, IT MAKES THE CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSIONS LOWER FOR
01:03:20 – BILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
01:03:22 – ETHAN ZINDLER: IF WE WANT TO ACTUALLY REDUCE CO2 EMISSIONS
01:03:24 – FROM THE U.S. OR GLOBALLY,
01:03:26 – TO SOME SUFFICIENT AMOUNT, IT IS WORTH INVESTING IN ALL
01:03:29 – KINDS OF TECHNOLOGIES THAT COULD HELP GET US THERE.
01:03:33 – BUT, IF, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOLVING THE PROBLEM, NOW?
01:03:35 – WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT'S IN OUR TOOLBOX TO, KIND OF,
01:03:37 – TO DEAL WITH IT, NOW?
01:03:38 – CCS IS NOT THERE.
01:03:46 – JOHN WILLIAMS: IDEALLY, THE FUTURE OF COLSTRIP WOULD BE TO
01:03:49 – HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE COME IN AND SAY, HEY!
01:03:51 – THOSE UNITS ARE PRODUCTIVE; THEY'RE EFFECTIVE;
01:03:54 – THEY'RE EFFICIENT; THEY'RE CLEAN BURNING.
01:03:56 – THAT WOULD BE THE EPITOME OF WHAT WE WOULD LIKE
01:03:59 – TO HOPE FOR.
01:04:00 – JIM ATCHISON: WHETHER IT'S A ANOTHER TYPE OF COAL,
01:04:02 – CLEAN COAL TECHNOLOGY, SOME OTHER SOURCE,
01:04:04 – WE HAVE A GREAT PLACE HERE.
01:04:06 – WE HAVE A WORKFORCE THAT WANTS TO DO THAT.
01:04:08 – AND WE HAVE A FUEL SUPPLY NEXT DOOR.
01:04:11 – DUANE ANKNEY: WE'RE A NATURAL RESOURCE STATE.
01:04:13 – WE HAVE BEEN.
01:04:14 – I MEAN, LOOK ON OUR FLAG.
01:04:16 – WHAT DO YOU SEE?
01:04:17 – PICK AND SHOVEL.
01:04:19 – WE'VE BEEN DIGGING OUR FUTURE SINCE BEFORE THIS WAS A STATE.
01:04:24 – ALEXIS BONOGOFSKY: PEOPLE ARE HOLDING ON SO TIGHTLY TO COAL
01:04:26 – THAT THEY HAVE BLINDERS ON TO ANY OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.
01:04:29 – WE HAVE AMAZING TRANSMISSION LINES HERE.
01:04:31 – WE COULD BE POWERING COMMUNITIES WITH SOLAR AND
01:04:33 – WIND AND GEOTHERMAL.
01:04:36 – BUT, PEOPLE HAVE TO BE OPEN TO SEEING THAT.
01:04:38 – MIKE SCOTT: WE DO FEEL THAT WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS
01:04:40 – RESPONSIBILITY TO THE COMMUNITY OF COLSTRIP.
01:04:42 – HOW CAN WE EASE THE BLOW HERE?
01:04:45 – HOW DO WE BRING OTHER INDUSTRIES INTO THIS AREA THAT
01:04:48 – CREATES JOBS THAT PEOPLE CAN BE PROUD TO GO TO?
01:04:50 – WE ALREADY KNOW THIS TRANSITION IS HAPPENING.
01:04:53 – SO, WE CAN EITHER CHOOSE TO ADAPT.
01:04:55 – OR, WE CAN FIGHT WHAT IS HAPPENING.
01:04:58 – AND IF, WE CONTINUE TO FIGHT IT.
01:05:00 – AND SAY, HEY!
01:05:01 – WE WANT TO BE A COAL TOWN, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO,
01:05:03 – AND, PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO BUY IT.
01:05:05 – UM, WE'RE GOING TO GET LEFT BEHIND.
01:05:21 – ANNE HEDGES: YOU GO UP TO JUDITH GAP AND YOU TALK
01:05:23 – TO THEIR LOCAL GOVERNMENT UP THERE.
01:05:24 – THAT'S AN EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVE COUNTY.
01:05:28 – LEGISLATORS FROM THE COUNTY ARE VERY, VERY CONSERVATIVE.
01:05:32 – BUT, THEY LIKE WIND.
01:05:35 – MICHAEL PRATER: JUDITH GAP WIND FARM IS ABOUT 100 MILES
01:05:37 – NORTHWEST OF BILLINGS, MONTANA.
01:05:39 – AND THEY ARE THE OLDEST WIND FARM IN MONTANA.
01:05:44 – THERE'S 90 TURBINES, 265 FEET IN THE AIR.
01:05:47 – AND AT FULL PRODUCTION, ONE-MEGAWATT HOUR COULD
01:05:49 – PRODUCE ENOUGH POWER TO SUSTAIN 300 TO 1,000 HOMES.
01:05:54 – ANNE HEDGES: WIND IS BRINGING IN MONEY;
01:05:56 – IT'S BRINGING IN TAX REVENUE.
01:05:57 – AND THE WIND TURBINES ARE PAYING LEASE PAYMENTS TO THE
01:06:01 – FARMERS, WHOSE LAND THEY ARE LOCATED ON.
01:06:05 – SO, THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY TO BE MADE IN WIND.
01:06:07 – MICHAEL PRATER: WE PUT IN, UH, OVER $18 MILLION INTO
01:06:10 – THE LOCAL ECONOMY.
01:06:11 – AND OVER ABOUT $4 MILLION JUST IN LEASE PAYMENTS
01:06:13 – TO LAND OWNERS.
01:06:15 – MIKE SCOTT: WE'RE COMPLETELY AWARE THAT RENEWABLE ENERGY IS
01:06:17 – NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO ABSORB EVERY WORKER WHO IS
01:06:21 – DISPLACED FROM COLSTRIP.
01:06:23 – BUT, WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT IT CAN DO TO
01:06:26 – HELP LESSEN THE BLOW.
01:06:29 – AND IT FRANKLY, WHAT IT CAN DO TO OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT
01:06:31 – HAVEN'T NECESSARILY BENEFITED FROM COAL.
01:06:34 – MARK JACOBSON: IF WE TRANSITIONED TO CLEAN,
01:06:35 – RENEWABLE ENERGY,
01:06:37 – WE WILL NEED TO BUILD A HUGE INFRASTRUCTURE.
01:06:39 – THIS IS LIKE, A MOON PROJECT WHERE WE HAVE TO BUILD AT
01:06:43 – RATES UNPRECEDENTED IN HUMAN HISTORY.
01:06:46 – I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FULL-TIME JOBS BUILDING WIND
01:06:48 – PLANTS AND SOLAR PLANTS AND ELECTRIC VEHICLES; BATTERIES.
01:06:51 – WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RETROFIT HOMES.
01:06:52 – SO, THERE'S HUGE POTENTIAL FOR RENEWABLE ENERGY JOBS.
01:07:04 – IN 2009, WE DEVELOPED AN ENERGY PLAN TO SEE WHETHER IT
01:07:07 – WAS POSSIBLE TO RE-POWER THE ENTIRE WORLD WITH WIND, WATER,
01:07:10 – AND SOLAR POWER.
01:07:12 – AND WE DETERMINED THAT IT WAS,
01:07:14 – TECHNICALLY AND ECONOMICALLY POSSIBLE.
01:07:15 – BUT, THERE WERE SOCIAL AND POLITICAL BARRIERS THAT MIGHT
01:07:17 – SLOW US.
01:07:19 – BUT, THESE PLANS HAVE REALLY GALVANIZED A MOVEMENT.
01:07:21 – AND MANY CITIES, IN FACT, HAVE NOW ADOPTED GOALS,
01:07:24 – OF GOING TO 100% CLEAN RENEWABLE ENERGY.
01:07:27 – SO, THIS HAS KIND OF SPREAD LIKE WILDFIRE.
01:07:32 – DALE ROSS: HERE WE ARE IN ONE OF THE REDDEST CITIES;
01:07:34 – IN ONE OF THE REDDEST COUNTIES;
01:07:35 – IN ONE OF THE REDDEST STATES.
01:07:37 – BUT, WE PUT THOSE SILLY NATIONAL POLITICS ASIDE TO DO
01:07:40 – WHAT'S BEST FOR THE PEOPLE WE'RE ELECTED TO SERVE.
01:07:43 – AND THE BEST THING TO DO WAS TO SIGN CONTRACTS
01:07:46 – FOR WIND AND SOLAR.
01:07:47 – CURRENTLY, WE'RE 90% RENEWABLE ENERGY.
01:07:51 – IN THE SPRING, WE'LL BE THE LARGEST CITY IN THE COUNTRY
01:07:54 – THAT WILL BE 100% RENEWABLE ENERGY.
01:07:56 – AND I THINK, WE'RE GETTING A FRESH APPROACH BECAUSE THE
01:07:58 – NATIONAL POLITICS IS TEXAS WASN'T SUPPOSED TO DO THIS!
01:08:02 – THAT'S A, THAT'S THIS LIBERAL-PROGRESSIVE IDEA UP
01:08:04 – IN THE NORTHEAST.
01:08:06 – THEY SHOULD BE DOING THAT!
01:08:07 – BUT, THE DECISION WAS FIRST AND FOREMOST
01:08:10 – AN ECONOMIC DECISION.
01:08:12 – CHRIS FOSTER: HERE, EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IN THIS CITY IS
01:08:15 – BUILT ON 30-YEAR HORIZONS.
01:08:18 – SO, IN MY CASE, WHEN IT CAME TO POWER THAT MEANT TAKING A
01:08:20 – 30-YEAR OUTLOOK ON WHAT THE COST OF THE ENERGY IS.
01:08:24 – THE BEST PART ABOUT RENEWABLE ENERGY IS THAT
01:08:26 – WITH A SOLAR PANEL OR EVEN, A WIND TURBINE,
01:08:29 – FOR THE MOST PART,
01:08:30 – IT'S NOT DIFFICULT TO KEEP THEM WORKING.
01:08:32 – AND THEY HAVE NO FUEL COST.
01:08:34 – SO, 30 YEARS FROM TODAY, THEY WILL BE MAKING ENERGY THAT
01:08:37 – COST NOTHING TO THE MARKET.
01:08:40 – DALE ROSS: WE WERE ABLE TO SIGN CONTRACTS FOR
01:08:42 – 20 AND 25 YEARS.
01:08:44 – SO, WE'RE GOING TO BE BUYING ENERGY IN YEAR 25 AT THE SAME
01:08:47 – KILOWATT PRICE AS IN YEAR ONE.
01:08:50 – IF YOU MAKE FACT-BASED DECISIONS, I THINK,
01:08:53 – THAT'S WHAT TURNS OUT BEST FOR THE PEOPLE WE
01:08:54 – WERE ELECTED TO SERVE.
01:08:57 – ERIC CALDWELL: CITIES ARE REALLY BECOMING LABORATORIES
01:08:59 – FOR BEST PRACTICES.
01:09:00 – WHEN YOU LOOK AROUND THE COUNTRY.
01:09:02 – AND YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF COMMUNITIES THAT ARE
01:09:06 – COMING UP WITH RENEWABLE ENERGY SOLUTIONS.
01:09:09 – IT'S LARGELY CITIES THAT ARE DRIVING THAT CONVERSATION.
01:09:15 – EDWIN LEE: 70% OF GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS ARE
01:09:17 – EMITTED BY CITIES.
01:09:20 – SO, WE MUST BE AND WE HAVE TO BE MAKING A STRONG COMMITMENT
01:09:23 – TO USE ALTERNATIVE ENERGY SOURCES.
01:09:26 – AND THAT'S THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING A MEMBER OF GROUPS,
01:09:28 – LIKE THE C40.
01:09:30 – A GROUP OF OVER 85 MAJOR CITIES ACROSS THE WORLD THAT
01:09:35 – ARE MAKING A COMMITMENT TO USING CLEANER ENERGY.
01:09:39 – RICHARD MARTIN: ONE OF THE ENCOURAGING SIGNS I SEE IS
01:09:41 – THAT BIG COMPANIES LIKE, GOOGLE,
01:09:43 – FACEBOOK AND APPLE ARE FULLY COMMITTED.
01:09:46 – THEY REALLY BELIEVE THAT THE FUTURE LIES
01:09:48 – IN RENEWABLE ENERGY.
01:09:50 – SO, EVEN, AS THIS RIDICULOUS DEBATE CONTINUES OVER WHETHER
01:09:55 – CLIMATE CHANGE IS CAUSED BY HUMANS OR NOT,
01:09:57 – YOU'RE SEEING THE MAJOR CORPORATIONS;
01:10:00 – YOU'RE SEEING OTHER COUNTRIES INVESTING
01:10:01 – HEAVILY IN RENEWABLES.
01:10:08 – ETHAN ZINDLER: THE WESTERN PERSPECTIVE ON CHINA IS THEY
01:10:10 – JUST BURN TONS AND TONS OF COAL.
01:10:11 – AND THEY'RE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM.
01:10:14 – BUT CHINA IS BY FAR AND AWAY, THE LARGEST MANUFACTURER OF
01:10:18 – SOLAR EQUIPMENT.
01:10:20 – THEY PRODUCE MORE WIND TURBINES THAN ANY OTHER
01:10:21 – COUNTRY, AS WELL.
01:10:23 – AND MORE TO THE POINT, THEY INSTALL A LOT MORE THAN
01:10:25 – ANY OTHER COUNTRY.
01:10:27 – OVER A THIRD OF ALL THE NEW GENERATION THAT THEY ADDED
01:10:29 – LAST YEAR WAS RENEWABLE.
01:10:33 – CHRISTIANA FIGUERES: AND INDIA IS GOING TO COMPETE WITH CHINA
01:10:35 – ON BOTH QUALITY AND PRICE OF SOLAR TECHNOLOGY.
01:10:39 – AND HOW EXCITING IS IT THAT THE TWO LARGEST DEVELOPING
01:10:43 – COUNTRIES WILL ACTUALLY, VERY, VERY SOON BE THE PRODUCERS OF
01:10:47 – CUTTING EDGE ENERGY TECHNOLOGY.
01:10:50 – THAT IS A HUGE SHIFT IN PARADIGM THAT WE'RE NOT USED TO.
01:10:53 – MARK JACOBSON: THE REST OF THE WORLD IS DOING THIS.
01:10:55 – AND BECAUSE THERE'S LESS OPPOSITION IN MANY COUNTRIES
01:10:59 – THAN IN THE UNITED STATES.
01:11:00 – IT'S MORE, LIKELY, THAT THEY WILL TAKE THE LEAD BY US NOT
01:11:03 – ACTING FAST ENOUGH.
01:11:07 – CHUCK KEENEY: AS CHEAPER, CLEANER CHOICES ARE OUT THERE
01:11:11 – FOR PEOPLE, THE MARKET IS GOING TO DRIVE COAL AWAY.
01:11:15 – THAT IS INEVITABILITY.
01:11:17 – IT CANNOT BE CHANGED, NO MATTER WHO IS PRESIDENT;
01:11:20 – NO MATTER WHO IS GOVERNOR;
01:11:21 – NO MATTER WHAT LAWSUIT GETS FILED.
01:11:24 – BRUCE NILLES: WE WERE ABLE AT A NATIONAL LEVEL TO FIND
01:11:27 – COMMON GROUND ON SOME OTHER VERY CONTENTIOUS ISSUES.
01:11:30 – BACK A DECADE AGO, THERE WAS A WAR ON TOBACCO.
01:11:34 – SO, INSTEAD OF, SAYING OVERNIGHT,
01:11:35 – WE'RE JUST GOING TO LEAVE THE TOBACCO FARMERS HIGH AND DRY.
01:11:38 – CONGRESS CAME UP WITH A WAY TO HELP THE COMMUNITIES AND THE
01:11:40 – FARMERS MAKE A TRANSITION.
01:11:42 – IT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE CAN BE DOING WITH THE COAL MINING
01:11:44 – COMMUNITIES AND THE COAL MINERS.
01:11:47 – JAY WILLIAMS: TODAY, I AM PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE
01:11:49 – U.S. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATION IS AWARDING
01:11:52 – $11.5 MILLION TO ORGANIZATIONS IN THIS REGION.
01:11:57 – THESE PROJECTS WILL HELP CREATE JOBS IN NEW,
01:12:00 – OR EXISTING INDUSTRIES BY DIVERSIFYING LOCAL ECONOMIES.
01:12:04 – I'M FROM YOUNGSTOWN, OHIO.
01:12:06 – THIRTY-PLUS YEARS AGO, WHEN THAT TRANSITION WAS HAPPENING
01:12:09 – WITH THE MANUFACTURING OF STEEL,
01:12:10 – THERE WAS NO COORDINATED FEDERAL RESPONSE.
01:12:12 – IT TOOK SOME COMMUNITIES DECADES TO FIGURE OUT WHICH
01:12:14 – WAY WAS UP.
01:12:16 – BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A FEDERAL ASSISTANCE
01:12:18 – TO HELP THOSE COMMUNITIES MOVE TO A BETTER FUTURE.
01:12:20 – BRANDON DENNISON: WE, BASICALLY,
01:12:22 – ENVISION THIS AS BEING A HUB FOR JOB CREATION
01:12:25 – AND JOB TRAINING.
01:12:26 – SO, COALFIELD DEVELOPMENT IS A FAMILY OF SOCIAL ENTERPRISES.
01:12:30 – WE STARTED IN CONSTRUCTION.
01:12:31 – OUR TRAINEES SIGN A 30-MONTH CONTRACT.
01:12:34 – THEY WORK, PAID ON THE JOB.
01:12:35 – THEY'RE IN THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE SIX HOURS A WEEK.
01:12:38 – THEY'VE BEEN WORKING TOWARDS AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE.
01:12:39 – SO, IT'S AN EMPLOYMENT; IT'S WAGES IN THE POCKET;
01:12:42 – THEY'RE BUILDING CREDENTIALS THAT ARE GOING TO BENEFIT THEM
01:12:44 – THE REST OF THEIR LIFE.
01:12:46 – I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN WEST VIRGINIA.
01:12:48 – AND YOU KNOW AS A REGION, WE'RE NOT ASHAMED OF POWERING
01:12:51 – THIS COUNTRY FOR 100 YEARS.
01:12:53 – WE'RE PROUD OF THAT AND WE SHOULD BE PROUD OF THAT.
01:12:55 – BUT, I THINK, WE'RE WAKING UP TO THE REALIZATION THAT IF
01:12:57 – WE'RE GOING TO SURVIVE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADAPT.
01:13:00 – SO, WE STARTED COALFIELD DEVELOPMENT IN THE
01:13:03 – SUMMER OF 2010.
01:13:04 – DANNY FERGUSON: COME UP HERE AND PUT A BIG WHITE CAULKING
01:13:06 – AROUND THAT, SINK.
01:13:07 – JUST SCREW IT IN WITH THE LITTLE SCREWS THAT WE HAVE OUT
01:13:09 – IN THE TRUCK.
01:13:11 – ALL THE MINES AROUND LINCOLN COUNTY'S CLOSED DOWN.
01:13:14 – THESE BOYS HAVE A HARD TIME FINDING A JOB WHEN THEY COME
01:13:16 – OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE THERE'S JUST NOTHING.
01:13:18 – WE GOT SUBWAY, MCDONALD'S, A BURGER KING,
01:13:22 – THAT'S YOUR JOB MARKET.
01:13:24 – SO, THIS IS REALLY A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR
01:13:26 – KIDS LOOKING FOR JOBS.
01:13:29 – BRANDON DENNISON: WE REALIZED WITH THAT MODEL,
01:13:30 – WE WERE ON TO SOMETHING.
01:13:32 – SO WE SAID HEY, THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN REPLICATE
01:13:34 – IN OTHER INDUSTRIES.
01:13:35 – SO, THIS IS OUR FAMILY OF ENTERPRISES.
01:13:36 – REVITALIZE IS OUR CONSTRUCTION;
01:13:39 – REWIRE IS OUR SOLAR; REFRESH IS OUR AGRICULTURE.
01:13:44 – [GOATS BLEATING].
01:13:46 – WE HAVE A SIGHT ON A FORMER STRIP MINE.
01:13:48 – HOGS, CHICKENS, GOATS.
01:13:50 – [GOATS BLEATING].
01:13:53 – BEN GILMER: EARLY 1990S THIS PROPERTY LOOKED LIKE THAT.
01:13:57 – FOR US, THAT MEANS, WE NEED TO GET CREATIVE ON HOW WE REBUILD
01:14:00 – THIS, AND RE-PURPOSE IT.
01:14:03 – YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE PURPOSE TO BUILD THE SOIL.
01:14:06 – AND TO GENERATE REVENUE.
01:14:07 – BUT, ALSO, TO TRAIN OUR TRAINEES, YOU KNOW,
01:14:10 – A WIDE VARIETY OF DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES.
01:14:13 – WILBURN JUDE: I'D WORKED IN THE COAL MINES FOR
01:14:14 – LIKE 18 YEARS.
01:14:15 – I WENT FROM $27 TO $35 AN HOUR TO $10 AN HOUR.
01:14:20 – BUT, THIS HAS JUST BEEN A REAL GODSEND.
01:14:22 – I WAS ALWAYS INTERESTED IN FARMING.
01:14:24 – NOW, I GET TO DO WHAT I ALWAYS WANTED TO DO.
01:14:27 – AND BESIDES THAT, I'M GETTING AN EDUCATION TO BOOT.
01:14:28 – SO, IT'S JUST A WIN-WIN, FOR ME.
01:14:31 – BRANDON DENNISON: WE'RE CLEAR TO OUR STAFF,
01:14:33 – THIS IS NOT A CHARITY.
01:14:34 – SO, EACH ENTERPRISE HAS REVENUE TARGETS THAT IT'S GOT
01:14:37 – TO HIT TO PROVE THAT IT'S VIABLE.
01:14:40 – YOU KNOW, WE ARE INVESTING IN STANDING UP BUSINESSES THAT
01:14:42 – ARE GOING TO BE BUILT TO LAST.
01:14:44 – THIS WILL BE THE LARGEST SOLAR PROJECT IN THE STATE
01:14:46 – OF WEST VIRGINIA.
01:14:47 – IT'S BIG ENOUGH, IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A
01:14:49 – SOLAR-POWERED PLANT.
01:14:50 – JAY WILLIAMS: OKAY.
01:14:51 – SO, IT WILL GENERATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU NEED?
01:14:53 – AND THEN, THERE'LL BE SOME EXCESS?
01:14:54 – BRANDON DENNISON: EXACTLY, RIGHT.
01:14:55 – A LOT OF EXCESS, A LOT OF EXCESS.
01:14:58 – JAY WILLIAMS: PRESIDENT OBAMA CREATED THIS INITIATIVE.
01:15:00 – AND AS THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WINDS DOWN THE
01:15:02 – INVESTMENTS THAT WE'RE MAKING ARE, CERTAINLY,
01:15:04 – INTENDED TO EXCEED THE LIFE OF THIS ADMINISTRATION.
01:15:17 – BRANDON DENNISON: IT'S A LITTLE SCARY.
01:15:18 – I MEAN, COAL IS WHAT WE KNOW IN APPALACHIA.
01:15:20 – IT TAKES COURAGE TO THINK ABOUT DOING IT DIFFERENTLY.
01:15:22 – BUT, AS LONG AS WE KEEP HOLDING ON TO THAT PAST AND
01:15:25 – JUST HOPING TO HAVE ANOTHER BOOM, WHICH WILL,
01:15:27 – EVENTUALLY, BUST.
01:15:28 – AND A BOOM AND A BUST, THEN, THEN, THEN,
01:15:30 – NEWER AND BETTER IS NEVER GOING TO COME.
01:15:36 – MARY ANNE HITT: WE ARE REALLY AT A CROSSROADS, RIGHT NOW.
01:15:39 – SOME PEOPLE SEE THE WRITING ON THE WALL THAT
01:15:41 – COAL ISN'T COMING BACK.
01:15:43 – AND THEY ARE FORGING AHEAD, CREATING NEW OPPORTUNITIES.
01:15:48 – OTHER FOLKS ARE JUST HANGING ON TO THE PROMISE,
01:15:50 – WHICH THEY ARE BEING TOLD BY THEIR POLITICAL LEADERS THAT
01:15:52 – COAL WILL COME BACK.
01:15:54 – PRESIDENT TRUMP: WE'RE PREPARING BOLD ACTION TO LIFT
01:15:56 – THE RESTRICTIONS ON AMERICAN ENERGY,
01:15:58 – INCLUDING BEAUTIFUL CLEAN COAL AND WE ARE GOING
01:16:01 – TO PUT OUR MINERS BACK TO WORK.
01:16:05 – JUSTIN MARCUM: OBAMA'S GONE.
01:16:06 – WITH THE NEW LEADERSHIP IN WASHINGTON,
01:16:08 – THERE'S A BRIGHT FUTURE.
01:16:10 – THERE'S PLENTY OF COAL STILL CAN BE MINED.
01:16:11 – AND COAL CAN STILL POWER AMERICA.
01:16:14 – REGINA LILLY: THE POLITICIANS ARE PROMISING US THAT THEY'LL
01:16:16 – MAKE COAL GREAT, AGAIN.
01:16:17 – I PRAY IT DOES.
01:16:18 – BUT, I DON'T EVER SEE IT COMING BACK ON THE LEVEL
01:16:20 – THAT IT WAS.
01:16:22 – CARL POPE: MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING LOUDLY AND CLEARLY,
01:16:25 – WE DON'T WANT TO BE DEPENDENT ON A 19TH-CENTURY TECHNOLOGY.
01:16:29 – DANNY WHITT: IF, WE'RE SITTING,
01:16:30 – WAITING FOR COAL TO COME IN AND BE OUR SAVIOR, AGAIN.
01:16:32 – WE'RE FOOLING' OURSELVES.
01:16:33 – CARL POPE: WE DON'T WANT TO BE DEPENDENT ON A
01:16:35 – POWER SOURCE THAT KILLS.
01:16:37 – DEBORAH GRAHAM: WE LIVE IN CONSTANT FEAR EVERY DAY.
01:16:40 – WHO FEARS THEIR WATER?
01:16:42 – WE DON'T LIVE IN A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY!
01:16:45 – I THINK THIS IS UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HERE!
01:16:48 – AND WE'RE FEARING OUR WATER.
01:16:50 – FRANK HOLLEMAN: YOU CANNOT COUNT ON THE GOVERNMENT;
01:16:51 – YOU CANNOT COUNT ON THESE UTILITIES;
01:16:53 – YOU CAN'T EVEN COUNT ON THE POLITICIANS YOU
01:16:54 – ELECT TO PROTECT YOU.
01:16:56 – PEOPLE HAVE TO STAND UP AND SPEAK OUT FOR THEIR RIGHTS!
01:17:00 – MISTI O'QUINN: IT'S JUST GOING TO GET WORSE.
01:17:01 – SO, SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE.
01:17:03 – YOU GOT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
01:17:04 – GEORGE THURSTON: SO, WHAT'S HAPPENING IS NOT A
01:17:05 – WAR ON COAL.
01:17:06 – IT'S COAL'S WAR ON OUR HEALTH.
01:17:08 – EDWIN LEE: YOU WANT TO BE PART OF A GOOD THINKING SMART CITY
01:17:12 – THAT SAYS OUR CLIMATE AND OUR ENVIRONMENT ARE IMPORTANT.
01:17:15 – RICHARD MARTIN: THE DECISIONS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS MAKE AT THE
01:17:18 – GROUND LEVEL ARE REALLY WHAT'S GOING TO DETERMINE HOW WE
01:17:21 – PRODUCE POWER IN THIS COUNTRY GOING FORWARD.
01:17:24 – MICHAEL OPPENHEIMER: IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW
01:17:25 – QUICKLY IT'S DONE.
01:17:27 – THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT'S REAL.
01:17:29 – IT'S HAPPENING, WE'RE STARTING TO FEEL THE EFFECTS.
01:17:31 – AND IF WE'RE STILL BURNING COAL,
01:17:33 – WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WHOPPING CLIMATE PROBLEM.
01:17:36 – BRUCE NILLES: WE NEED TO ELIMINATE ALL OF THE COAL OVER
01:17:37 – THE NEXT TEN TO FIFTEEN YEARS.
01:17:39 – IT'S ONE OF THE QUICKEST, EASIEST THINGS WE CAN DO TO
01:17:41 – ADDRESS A HUGE PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS AND
01:17:43 – ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE.
01:17:46 – MARY ANNE HITT: AS A NATION, WE OWE A DEBT OF GRATITUDE TO
01:17:49 – THE PEOPLE WHO SACRIFICED THEIR LIVES TO
01:17:51 – POWER THIS COUNTRY.
01:17:53 – AND I THINK, THE BEST WAY THAT WE REPAY THAT DEBT IS BY
01:17:56 – BUILDING A DIVERSE ECONOMY IN THOSE PLACES THAT CAN ACTUALLY
01:17:59 – SUSTAIN THE GENERATIONS.
01:18:01 – CHARLES “HAWKEYE” DIXON: THAT'S ALL WE WANT.
01:18:03 – WE'LL WORK EXTREMELY HARD.
01:18:04 – WHATEVER WE DO, WE'LL DO A GOOD JOB.
01:18:08 – CHUCK KEENEY: FUTURE GENERATIONS ARE GOING TO LOOK
01:18:10 – BACK AND SEE THIS TIME PERIOD AS THE PIVOT POINT.
01:18:15 – THIS WAS THE CHANCE TO EITHER PREPARE FOR WHAT IS TO COME OR
01:18:18 – TO BURY OUR HEADS IN THE SAND AND PUSH THE PROBLEM AWAY
01:18:22 – FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
01:19:06 – ♪ [“DARK AS A DUNGEON” JOHN MELLENCAMP], ♪
01:19:12 – ♪ JOHN MELLENCAMP: COME ALL YOU YOUNG FELLERS, ♪
01:19:14 – ♪ SO YOUNG AND SO FINE AND ♪
01:19:17 – ♪ SEEK NOT YOUR FORTUNE IN A DARK DREARY MINE. ♪
01:19:22 – ♪ IT'LL FORM AS A HABIT AND SEEP TO YOUR SOUL. ♪
01:19:27 – ♪ TILL THE STREAM OF YOUR BLOOD FLOWS BLACK AS THE COAL. ♪
01:19:33 – ♪ IT'S DARK AS A DUNGEON, ♪
01:19:36 – ♪ AND DAMP AS THE DEW, ♪
01:19:38 – ♪ WHERE THE DANGERS ARE DOUBLE AND THE PLEASURES ARE FEW. ♪
01:19:44 – ♪ WHERE THE RAIN NEVER FALLS AND THE SUN NEVER SHINES. ♪
01:19:49 – ♪ IT'S DARK AS A DUNGEON WAY DOWN IN THE MINE. ♪
01:20:00 – ♪ COME MIDNIGHT OR MORNING OR THE MIDDLE OF DAY, ♪
01:20:05 – ♪ IT'S THE SAME TO THE MINER WHO LABORS AWAY. ♪
01:20:10 – ♪ WHERE THE DEMONS OF DEATH OFTEN COME BY SURPRISE, ♪
01:20:16 – ♪ ONE FALL OF THE SLATE AND YOU'RE BURIED ALIVE. ♪
01:20:22 – ♪ FOR IT'S DARK AS A DUNGEON, ♪
01:20:24 – ♪ AND DAMP AS THE DEW, ♪
01:20:27 – ♪ WHERE THE DANGER IS DOUBLE, AND THE PLEASURES ARE FEW. ♪
01:20:32 – ♪ WHERE THE RAIN NEVER FALLS AND THE SUN NEVER SHINES. ♪
01:20:37 – ♪ IT'S DARK AS A DUNGEON WAY DOWN IN THE MINE. ♪
01:20:51 – ♪ I HOPE WHEN I'M DEAD AND THE AGES SHALL ROLL. ♪
01:20:57 – ♪ MY BODY WILL BLACKEN AND TURN INTO COAL. ♪
01:21:02 – ♪ I'LL LOOK FROM THE DOOR OF MY HEAVENLY HOME AND ♪
01:21:07 – ♪ PITY THE MINERS WHO DIGGIN MY BONES. ♪
01:21:13 – ♪ IT'S DARK AS A DUNGEON, ♪
01:21:16 – ♪ AND DAMP AS THE DEW, ♪
01:21:18 – ♪ WHERE THE DANGERS ARE DOUBLE, AND THE PLEASURES ARE FEW. ♪
01:21:23 – ♪ WHERE THE RAIN NEVER FALLS AND THE SUN NEVER SHINES. ♪
01:21:28 – ♪ IT'S DARK AS A DUNGEON WAY DOWN IN THE MINE. ♪
01:21:55 – ♪ COME ALL YOU YOUNG FELLERS, ♪
01:21:58 – ♪ SO YOUNG AND SO FINE AND ♪
01:22:01 – ♪ SEEK NOT YOUR FORTUNE IN THE DARK DREARY MINE. ♪♪

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